Awesome news for everyone who plans on buying Apple products for friends and family this holiday season — you’ll be able to get a nice head start, provided you’re willing to wake up nice and early on Black Friday. AppleInsider’s sources say that “many” Apple retail outlets are going to be open starting at 8 a.m. on November 28th, which is actually a couple of hours later than when the company opened stores last year but still earlier than their normal opening times.

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“Spot checks at various Apple Store locations across the U.S. revealed planned opening times ranged between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m., while others plan to keep normal business hours,” AppleInsider writes. “A representative from one store California store said the outlet is officially scheduled to open at 10 a.m., but employees might let customers in an hour prior.”

Of course, just because you’ll be able to get an early start to Black Friday shopping at your local Apple Store, that doesn’t mean you’ll get any exceptional deals for doing so. Apple has been very Scrooge-like with its Black Friday deals and last year’s “offer” was the worst one yet as the company didn’t even bother discounting its products and only offered Apple Store gift cards to people who bought products on that day.

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