Apple iPad to include a scaled down single core ARM Cortex A8 SoC?

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Ars Technica has broken the silence on the Apple iPad processor and published new information on the mysterious A4 chipset that powers Apple’s upcoming tablet device. Erroneously thought to be powered by a dual-core Cortex A9 processor, Ars has inside information that suggests the A4 is a single core Cortex A8 based system on a chip, instead. The A4 is also reportedly a scaled down SoC that strips out excess controllers and connectivity options that are often included on other off the shelf SoCs which are designed to be compatible with a wide variety of mobile devices. Apple potentially only had the iPad in mind when developing this chip and incorporated the bare minimum components necessary to power and control the device including a PowerVR SGX GPU, Cortex A8 CPU, NAND and DDR memory interface block, system and security hardware, and a limited number of I/O controllers. A scaled down single-core Cortex A8 SoC does not necessarily mean it’s wimpy, but it may be enough of a letdown to persuade some potential early adopters into waiting for the 2nd generation iPad before coughing up their hard earned cash. Then again, with a $499 price point for the entry model, we’re not sure.

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  • AT&T_CSR

    A4.

    You sank my Battleship.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Drummer85 Creamy Tuna Casserole

    Oh boy…genius.

    Looks like you’ve got some of my creamy tuna casserole on your face.

  • Howard stern

    Isteal Ipad

  • warhed

    @ readers aren’t stupid
    Your a freaken troll! Don’t like the website? Don’t visit or post… dumbass!

  • Terry

    Not sure why anyone should care whether it’s single or dual core. If it’s running software it was designed for and the performance is good it doesn’t matter.

    • hyp22

      the reason is cost …as usual apple costs more and delivers less…………….

  • Matt S.

    $500 for an overlocked iPhone processor kinda sucks.

    • Christopher Cox

      Who said anything about it being overclocked? It sounds like a Cortex A8 that has been optimized to be leaner by stripping out the un-necessary stuff and run at a higher clock. Running at a higher clock doesn’t mean overclocking. I seriously doubt they would do that since they are very concerned about battery life.

    • Mrwirez

      Actually, most of the processor chips in smart phones come from the factory under-clocked.

  • Daniel

    deal breaker all day.. wont be getting this overpriced piece of crap…

    • Terry

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Daniel

  • MicroNix

    You know this will be just like the iPhone. Purchase, then months later a must have feature will come out on G2, then months after that you’ll have what should have been the G1. Only this time instead of $199, you start at $499. An elitist toy for sure. No one who works for their cash is going to waste it on a Gen 1 Apple device.

    • jawman

      Well said

    • FunkyG

      Months later being what, a year in the case of the iPhone to the iPhone 3g, then another year to the 3gs?

      Fact is, the original iPhone is still supported in the way of software updates and still runs all the apps the iPhone 3g does.

      Using your logic, why not just never buy anything at all as there will always be a better version if you wait long enough!

      • hyp22

        because with apple you pay a premium for inferior features…and in almost all cases proprietary accessories hows that earpiece working out for you….can anyone say 3.5 …

    • hyp22

      the first iphone was much,much more than 199

  • Joao Carlos

    This comment has been seriously disliked.

  • http://www.maemo-freak.com christexaport

    Apple has made a possibly damaging move. They’ve scaled the iPhone OS up instead of scaling the MacOSX OS down for the iPad. With all od the MeeGo manufacturers planning releases, plus the Win7 and Android tablets, iPhone OS’ training wheels and lack of real computer skills will be easier to see.

    Hopefully they will have an iPad Pro running a scaled down MacOSX and an x86 or dual core ARM chip, or Nokia, Dell, and others will eat their lunch, and the smaller devices running MeeGo, Android, Win7, etc. will eat at Apple’s iPhone market share.

    Jobs, you idjit!! You were on a roll, and now you rest on your laurels?? Must like being a niche brand, because you just gave up your momentum. So sad.

    Welcome back into the mindshare game, Nokia. I knew you’d always be the boss in this game…

    • Christopher Cox

      I don’t want a full desktop OS in the iPad. I want a fast device that I can just sit, plop on the couch and INSTANTLY surf the web with a tap of a button. I want a device I can pull out an show a powerpoint with just a couple of taps. I don’t want to wait for an application to load or make sure to load a file to get at my information. You can’t do this in a full desktop OS. I want the iPad to complement my laptop, not replace it. I want the iPad as it is envisioned now. If you want a full desktop OS in a tablet form factor … buy one of the many tablet devices coming out with Windows 7.

      • jawman

        Instantly surf the web and run PowerPoint? Sounds like you need a (gasp) laptop!

      • Christopher Cox

        No. A laptop doesn’t let me instantly surf the web. It is nowhere near as convenient. On my laptop I have to plop the laptop down on a good place, log in, find my powerpoint, double click on it, wait for the application to load, then get clicking to bring up my slides. On something like this I can just walk to the next office, push the on button, click docs to go, then click the powerpoint. The app loads just about instantly on the iPhone, so it will be faster on the iPad. I can do it all on the move without having to find a good spot for the laptop. AND it is just as convenient as me just showing a pad of paper. A laptop is NOT that convenient. And same goes for light web surfing. Of course … it will not replace my laptop for real work.

      • drsoran

        I whip out my Macbook Pro, set it on my lap or a table, double-click on the document I want to open and it automatically loads in Powerpoint. I’m not sure why this is such a slow and difficult process for you. In my office there’s always plenty of table space to set down a laptop and sit comfortably to work. Apple’s work environment must consist of mostly couches and big comfy chairs you can put your feet up on in order to prop up your iPad. Jobs’s had to prop the thing up on his lap to see it at a decent angle. Others were holding it in one hand while awkwardly trying to type with their other hand or balancing it on their lap to type two-handed. In all of those cases, a laptop would be superior for me.

      • FunkyG

        drsoran,

        What about waiting for the macbook to boot in the first place.

  • badonkadonk

    Gah – again the divide between Consumers and What They Want versus Reality and What They Need.

    “$500 for an overclocked iPhone processor” you say? Compared to the $500 you spent on the iPhone itself?

    seriously people, for what this device is *designed to do* a Cortex A8 running at a Gig or so will be just dandy. Look at the demos of the MSM7x30 chips from Qualcomm – these are same Cortex A8 equivalent cores running with a well-tuned video and GPU engine(s) and they can render 3D games and 720p content just fine. The A4 sounds like every other AP on the market today – whether from TI, Samsung, or whoever, minus what – the ISP? Some interfaces? When you say “only” the CPU, GPU, limited IO and DRAM / NVM interfaces I am left wondering what they really save from developing this versus just taking the next best thing from Sammy.

    The only reason for Apple to spend a *dime* on their own development is because they have a roadmap for replacing x86 in their low-end laptops (Airs, Macbook), and they’ll probably join it with a CULV in their MBPs. That and they are going to push GPU performance *waaaay* up from what most other vendors would want to see in the mobile space.

    But as for the underlying horsepower? Apple relies heavily on the GPU for the rendering and UI, not the CPU – whether its single or dual core doesn’t really matter unless their kernel is optimized for it, and the work there is still years away (for everyone – Apple, Symbian, RIM, WinMo…)

    The tegra2 everyone is falling all over themselves to fellate is actually a piece of shit (architecturally) and is only on the market so that NVidia doesn’t get pushed completely out of the mobile space. Compared to the OMAP4430 thought it’s a day late and a dollar short.

    • badonkadonk

      sorry – silly me, I meant to say “the tegra2 is being *demo’d* to keep NVida in the mobile space”… after all it hasn’t actually shipped in a product and won’t until Christmas

  • James Jackson

    500 is a good price first iPhone had a way lower processor and way smaller screen than ipad and sold for 600 to get a device with a 9 inch screen and can run all iPhone apps be a ebook reader movie and tv show watcher for 500 is good and the first iPhone had no app store for that 600 dollars either to me this is a great value for the money

  • Andy

    I don’t know about you all, but when I spend my hard earned cash, I want the latest and gratedt chipstyo mmt sam drvuf biggs flags the band on tj fx zdirrh I’m Tupi g in my iphonr sorry auto correction don’t help either.

  • Rang3r

    You go Reader!!! Put that punk ass Boy Genius in his place!!! Which is on his fuckin knees!!!

  • MonkeyCheese

    I’m still not seeing the point of the iPad. It can surf the internet, run apps, download books and etc. Not quite a computer or an iPhone.
    To me the device seems kinda pointless so is there something I’m not seeing? Someone?

    • http://www.applebythehour.com Jarrett

      A lot of people didn’t get the big deal about the iPhone either, or iPod Touch either. Closing in on a 100 million units later. The iPad doesn’t need to be a home run tech machine. The product will sell in large numbers. Regardless of how geeks feel about it, this product will be huge. I won’t be buying the first generation, maybe not even the second. Sooner or later though I am sure I will find some excuse to have this. I have not made up a good excuse to by a product in awhile though.

      • StevenGlansburg

        People on here seem to forget your very point. Apple is out to impress dorks reading about technology months before anyone knows or cares about it… they want the suburbanites and the socialites to eat up what they sell…. and Apple does a great job at that.

      • StevenGlansburg

        i mean to say Apple is NOT out to impress**** damn ipod touch….. haha

      • Christopher Cox

        There is one thing you don’t get. We like our iPhones because it is a simple device that just works … and works well. I don’t want to come home from my job managing systems, only to find my phone has an operating system that behaves like a computer. I love my iPhone because it just works. A device that DOESN’T feel like a tiny computer that I have to manage.

      • Patrick Moto Droid

        But this is a much larger device and the message sent out by Apple is that it is far more usefull. How!? No multitasking. Seems to me that they are piecing out iparts for someone to potentialy desighn there own useable system. Looks like second gen for me,And I will stick with android for my tablet, eeepcs and other chross utlilized devices to com,,

  • ka

    I open my macbook hit chrome and I surf ‘INSTANTLY’ with flash! Then I open up keynote or click my Google docs bookmark to mess with my presentations ‘INSTANTLY’ at the same time!

    I love Apple but ipad defenders have crossed into the land of the delusional where a regular OS really couldn’t do anything and the ipod touch Interface can read your mind.

    Their pathetic defense of this sham of a product gives me solace in completely foregoing any thought of purchasing this thing

  • JHeffK

    So guess this means it will be a POS….glorified ipod touch……shame

  • BCow

    Thats funny the Ipad has a Cotex chip. Sweet

  • Ray

    Why does Kelly Hodgkins title most of her articles in question format?

  • StevenGlansburg

    thanks for the score update, but I’m fairly certain that no one cares, or ever did

  • http://www.bgr.com Boy Genius

    I can’t believe I’m responding to this again… if you’d email me, or anyone on the team, we’d be happy to delete any spam comments you find. Additionally we changed how some of the comments are filtered too, so a lot more of those are picked up now.

  • http://www.maemo-freak.com christexaport

    Ok, so you DO respond to emails? I’m a Facebook friend, and I’ve never had you respond to my communications, whether IM or messages. Maybe spam police get priority, but I doubt anyone else would fare better…

    But seriously, dude, why bash BG about spam?? Ignore it, or just move on. Spamming us here helps no one, and only disrupts the discussion even worse than those “first!” dorks.

    Talk about the iPad or something!!

  • Mrwirez

    I can’t take “Readers Aren’t Stupid” anymore…

    Data wipe please!

  • Readers Still Aren’t Stupid

    ^ Sniveling Coward! :)

  • MonkeyCheese

    Yeah well I don’t recall any of us asking you for a score update. So, please fuck off.
    If you don’t have anything to say about the article please shutup.

  • Bill Grove

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    Thank you from an understanding reader.

    Bill

  • RT

    Fucking go away, your more annoying than the spammers

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