Apple notebook event is a go; say hello to the new MacBook Pro

Another sign of foolishness from the dumbed down apple favorite…so if i said iphone or Iphone rather than iPhone that makes a world of a difference huh RASclaat.

Likeabite: I dare you to lay out where I was blatantly wrong in my previous post to you. Oh wait, you can’t. And yes, I have a CompEng degree. You want a powerful PC, use FreeBSD, or you can use OpenBSD with a nice GUI on-top of it… Oh wait! That’s Mac OS X. Dipshit. And tell me, please, how a 1990 Macintosh Portable than ran Unix System V looks ANYTHING like a late 2008 MacBook Pro. They look nothing alike. You again demonstrate your complete ignorance. Please commit suicide at your earliest convenience.

RAS: You have to love the windows fanboys. They don’t understand.

MadMike so with all your degrees please demonstrate to me why the worst OS, which according to you, is beneath all those you mentioned, is still the most used in the world. Period. Pleae tell me why Apple, which started even before Microsoft, still has that less that 10% market share it has had since the beginning of time. There is nothing to understand. You and RASclaat are the reasons why Microsoft makes money of every Mac sold. You simply don’t get it just like Jobs did not get in back in the day. Bill Gates is the smarter and wiser of the two. You can say he stole the technology from Apple, you can say his operating system sucks but at the end of the day this is capitalism. If you’re not the Big Dog you get eaten and if you Apple fanboys piss Bill Gates off he’ll just buy Apple just because he can. Oh and he won’t even need Microsoft to do that either. He’ll buy Apple with his own money because he is that rich, then those Anti-trust guys can’t say shit about a monopoly. You people always sit there and talk nonsense about superiority. Fact of that matter is if you claim you have the best product, which we all know you don’t, and no one uses it then what’s the point of having it? Oh yea, that’s right. So you can have this niche crowd with more kneepads than Karrine Stephans giving Jobs and Co. major head for their products. At the end of the day Microsoft won’t lose the battle. They already won the war so you idiots can stop bitching about it. Funny thing is, by the time you realize Microsoft’s nonpareil existence it’ll be too late cause you’ll be dead with your degree in hand…just like every Apple geek out there.

It still baffles my mind that out of all the IT guys i worked with at Colgate University none of them ever bought a MAC when it came down to them getting computers because they wanted to build their own and costumize it. However, they all would not stop talking about how they loved Macs. Now I’m pretty sure all you fanboys here do the same but won’t admit it simply because you’re too ashamed. It’s ok because we all know if you buy a MAC that’s all you’re stuck with. You can’t really do shit to it but install another OS on it or increase the memory and little nonessentials like that. If you know of a website where you can buy your own parts and construct your own Mac please let me know and I’ll concede that your little static machine is more superior.

I didn’t say Windows was the worst OS. That, my good sir was an Operating System literally called “Pink.” Right above that site about 30 failed linux distros and even a few BSD spinoffs. Windows is one of the top, just its not #1. Neither is Mac OS X, but its up there.

Why is it most widely used? I ask that question every day. People are scared of change and MS took the corporate world when Mac was at its worst (1987-1996). People used MS at work, so they used it at home as well. I know because I was in college in 1992 after I got out of the Military. Mac’s OS back them was shit. Complete useless shit. Windows was light years ahead. People started to use Windows. Linux was nothing back then. Linux came out in 1991 but didn’t become really popular until 1996 at least. When I was at UPenn, doing ACSM – 99% of us were using Mac OS X and SSH’ng to our cluster running Debian. But most of the grunt work was done on Mac OS X.

However, today Mac OS X is better than Windows XP and Vista.

I buy a Mac laptop. ALL LAPTOPS ARE STATIC. Those DIY laptops are just barebones preconfig jobs. I buy Mac Mini’s because they make great little beowulf clusters and they are dirt cheap – but I have been changing up to EEE PC’s because they use less power and carry a bigger punch with a nice FreeBSD install on it. Hell, even PCBSD works GREAT on those little EEE boxes.

I don’t buy Mac desktops. I build my own desktops. I run Windows XP on those. Sometimes. Right now I have a FreeBSD desktop, but I have XP in a virtual machine. I even have Vista in a VM environment

I was talking about the MacBook Pro. But even the regular macs. I bought my sister a 24″ iMac. It does what she needs and she doesn’t have to worry about antivirus and antispyware. My parents, however are stuck on Windows. I tried to get them on Ubuntu, but after 3 weeks they didn’t like it.

Why MS is most widely used?

Answer: Marketing. Man they knew how to do it back in the 90′s. Windows 95 created lines around blocks all over. I remember CompUSA in NYC with the line it had…insane.

Also because it can run on systems that were built on computers made by companies such as Compaq, who was beating IBM on the HW side. Apple was too tight to allow their OS run on anything else but their own HW. Scully royally screwed Apple during his tenure.

Yes, Scully really had no clue what he was doing and the Microsoft Marketing Machine was rolling full steam ahead.

Now the tables have turned. Apples Marketing Machine is rolling full steam while Balmer is fucking Microsoft.

MadMike I like your current argument more so than the last ones. Yes, you are right that neither is #1 but I’m just wondering what you think the #1 OS is…Also don’t you think one of the most pertinent reasons why people stick to PCs is for the costumization aspect. When you look at it you can practically create any PC you can dream of while with Apple you have to use whatever they give you. People always want to seem different that is why when you enter a site like Dell or Sony or even HP you have various customization options. Now you can even had special graphics and what not to the back of the laptop to make it distinct. People can also purchase countless accessories for a PC while MAC accessories or even the programs that can run on them are extremely limited even now. I agree that Microsoft did have a better marketing team back in the day and Apple is way ahead of them now but do you think they can honestly catch up with the disparity already in existence and every program, game, software and accessory being compatible with Windows? That is what makes or break a product, even in the video game arena.

I think the #1 OS would have to be QNX. Just from the overall design, it was FAST and it was secure. Modern OS’s could learn a lot from QNX.

I understand the customization aspect. Windows runs on open hardware. Anyone can build a PC for windows. I build my own Windows desktops.

As far as peripherals and software. A lot of stuff is now supporting Apple. All the new external hard-drives, mice, displays, WWAN modems, etc… All the little shit peripherals. Even High end software packages like ProEngineer, Matlab & Prism work in Mac OS X.

And as Microsoft is trying like hell to dig themselves out of this hole they called Vista – A lot more Apps and hardware are including Mac Support.

If Microsoft got their head out of their ass, and remade the OS from the ground up instead of adding some stupid EyeCandy it would be different. We wanted the WinFS, the new command console and scripting languages, etc… We wanted a faster OS, pure 64-bit.

Games are a big issue. A lot more games work on Mac OS X now than ever before, but if your a Gamer, then Windows is your OS. The other love/hate benefit/curse is the closed hardware. On one end, it makes the entire package 100x more stable on the other, it does really limit your options and Apple doesn’t have a mid-priced tower or quad-core consumer grade chips (non-Xeons).

As far as catching up to the lead. They don’t have to. I personally would love them to stay the underdog. #1 is viruses and malware. It’s a lot harder to write viruses for a Mac because you really need to know the underling architecture and anyone smart enough to do it, is smart enough NOT to do it. If Mac OS X was to supplant Windows, a lot of people would do a lot of research and would start attempting to write malware for Mac OS X.

My favorite part about all of this is the PC vs. Mac argument. Apple releasing a new laptop has nothing to do with PC’s.

And as a loyal PC user, I love my Mac. I use Windows for some things, I use Leopard for others. It doesn’t really matter. The only thing I will say that Apple has going for it that PC’s have never really figured out how to do, is to make a decently looking machine that’s relatively thin AND has decent innards. If you want a fast, thin, powerful PC, you gotta go with a Lenovo/IBM, and they’re sinfully ugly.

Also, everyone who keeps saying that the Mac’s look like they’re “from the 90′s”, what the hell does that even mean? They still look great, although that glossy screen with the black matte is a bit of a turn off. They’re aluminum rectangles. How is that 90′s? It’s about as nondescript as you get.

This PC vs. Mac whine-war will never cease, or at least it’s unlikely, but it’s really pretty stupid. Leopard is more efficient because it’s Linux based, hand’s down, but Windows has a lot of compatibility and history behind it that makes it powerful. If MS figures out how to decrease the bloat of Windows, it could easily be as fast and efficient as OS X. It’s not right now, but it could be. Anytime I run applications against each other; under Windows and then under Leopard (on the same Machine), OS X outperforms Windows every time, in every task, except the ones that only Windows can do. Which is where Windows is necessary. You have to have it for some things.