• White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci sounded off in a new interview about what it’s been like working with Trump administration officials.
  • Among other things, Dr. Fauci admitted that his work with the administration has been “very stressful” at times.
  • He cited, as an example, recent comments from former Trump surrogate Steve Bannon which seemed to insinuate that Fauci should be beheaded.

On the same day that coronavirus infections set another new all-time high Wednesday, topping 145,000 cases in the US, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci had to take time during a new interview with an Australian journalist to address former Trump surrogate Steve Bannon’s insinuation that Fauci should be beheaded.

During a livestream of his online show in recent days, Bannon at one point mused that “I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England.” He called out Dr. Fauci as well as FBI Director Christopher Wray by name. “I’d put the heads on pikes, right? I’d put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats: You either get with the program or you’re gone.” Twitter swiftly slapped a permanent ban on the account associated with that show. Fauci, meanwhile, expressed a mixture of amazement and befuddlement that his medical work would one day lead someone to make a statement like that about him, which came during a broader discussion with Fauci about what it’s like to work with Trump administration officials.


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It’s “obviously been very stressful,” Fauci admitted in the new interview. “I mean, it’s just — to deny that would be to deny reality.

“When you have public figures like Bannon calling for your beheading. That’s really kind of unusual. That’s not the kind of thing you think about when you’re going through medical school to become a physician.”

Fauci continues by explaining that he deals with this kind of thing by focusing “like a laser beam” on his scientific work, in his capacity as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “If you focus on that, and don’t get distracted by all the other noise, then it’s not as bad as you might think it is.”

Among other tidbits he revealed during the interview:

Fauci hasn’t really dealt at all with President Trump for a while now. The White House coronavirus task force, instead, deals exclusively with Vice President Mike Pence. “So there’s a line of communication from the task force to the Vice-President and from the Vice-President to the President.”

In terms of what Fauci is hoping to see from the incoming Biden-Harris administration — he wants the new occupants of the White House to develop a coordinated national strategy “across our very large and somewhat disparate country” that represents an organized, national effort at the universal wearing of face masks, in addition to more aggressively promoting things like social distancing and avoiding crowds.

Andy is a reporter in Memphis who also contributes to outlets like Fast Company and The Guardian. When he’s not writing about technology, he can be found hunched protectively over his burgeoning collection of vinyl, as well as nursing his Whovianism and bingeing on a variety of TV shows you probably don’t like.