Steve Jobs explains how Apple ‘got to its glory’ in 1996 interview [video]

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Just a few months before Pixar CEO and NeXT founder Steve Jobs would rejoin Apple and eventually regain his position as its chief executive the following year, PBS aired an interview with Jobs that would end up being an insight into the strategy that not only propelled Apple in its early years, but also would help it to become the technology giant it is today. Louis Rukeyser conducted the interview and in his second question, he asked Jobs “What went wrong at Apple?” which at that point in time was in the midst of collapsing. Jobs’s response:

Oh gosh. You know I haven’t been there in a long time. My perception may not be complete. But from the way I see it, Apple was a company that was based on innovation. When I left Apple ten years ago, we were ten years ahead of anybody else. It took Microsoft ten years to copy Windows.

The problem was that Apple stood still. Even though it invested cumulatively billions in R&D, the output has not been there. People have caught up with it, and its differentiation has eroded, in particular with respect to Microsoft.

And so the way out for Apple — and I think Apple still has a future; there are some awfully good people there and there is tremendous brand loyalty to that company — I think the way out is not to slash and burn, it’s to innovate. That’s how Apple got to its glory, and that’s how Apple could return to it.

Several months after the interview aired, Jobs would sell what was left of his software company NeXT to Apple for $429 million — its NextSTEP operating system would become the foundation of OS X — and rejoin the company. A clip of PBS’s interview with Jobs follows below, and the full 9-minute interview can be found on the read link.

[Via Fortune]

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48 Comments
  • Anonymous

    OfMG how iLame, you’ve exhausted all iPhone 5 and iPad 3 rumours so, you go dig up a 15 year old interview. Especially when, there is so much more tech’ news out there today published on other sites that, you needn’t relegate yourselves [BGR] to iOS or even Android.
    Truly Sad :(

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    (Rooted and Running Sensei-Mod .602)

    • Anonymous

      Put the pacifier back in your  mouth and stfu.

      • Anonymous

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    • Anonymous

      ..and yet you came here. A site you apparently hate.

    • Anonymous

      I was just about to say the EXACT same thing… so much damn tech news out there…. It’s to a point where i honestly refused to even open most iOS stuff because its wayy too much……. Only reason I really keep coming to BGR is the fact that they tend to get a lot of exclusive news from their insiders…. but this site has gotten so sour..

      I’m not “HATING” on the Apple news, its just that so much of it is irrelevant and there’s so much other tech news out there on a DAILY basis

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Umairmuhammadalikhan-Umairkhan/100000724275502 Umairmuhammadalikhan Umairkhan

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    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Dawkins/746307628 Ricardo Dawkins

      Truer words have not been said. What a shame!

    • Anonymous

      Wow someone that is happy with their droid x. SHOCKED

    • Anonymous

      You do realize that you are the equivalent of a person who regularly visits Burger King for lunch and complains about the low food quality, right? You do yourself no favors by bitching immaturely about how you’d like a more varied swath of news from BGR. It’s a pretty big damn internet out there. Quit whining and go find a site that’s better attuned to your needs.

  • http://twitter.com/UrbanEnigma Yves

    Hopefully this post will complete the BGR Apple dick-sucking quota for the day and we can actually get some relevant tech reporting

    • somedude0123

      And yet your here reading it, so who’s the dick sucker again?

      • http://twitter.com/UrbanEnigma Yves

        I guess I missed the memo where being able to read a title makes someone a dick sucker

      • Sam

        Prejudging without reading the article!
        And you are proud of that?

        With all those rumors being copied and recopied, I found this article refreshing to read. – How a person stuck to his personal goal and not waiver from it all theses years and prov*ed* to the world he did it right is worth re-reading. Ps. How can assume that just because you found the article not worth your time that other thinks the same. Pease, don’t be so conceded.

  • Anonymous

    Truly apple is an admired company by consumers, Techies, and yes BGR. Your “iCrap”, “apple d#*k sucking” comments stink of jealousy. Thats my comment for the day. you may continue hating…

  • http://www.jphotog.com Hrunga Zmuda

    You know, I’m starting to have some sympathy for Microsoft and all the harsh hate they got for being the top tech company. Now that Apple has replaced them in that role, they’re going to have to deal with the irrational hatred of the anti-Apple jihadists, who are the Wahabi of the tech world now. Truly pathetic.

    • http://www.sakurawalker.com iEric

      Exactly, a company works hard to get on top and people hate them for being there.  Haters gonna hate.

  • Anonymous

    FIRST!!! bonsai!!!!!!

  • Drybones5

    The only thing Apple is ahead in is hardware case designs.

    I love Macbook Pro cases and I think the iMac and Mac mini are lovely looking machines.

    But Apple, IMO is behind in software.  Honestly I believe that Ubuntu is ahead of Mac OS X in terms of out of the box functionality, notifications, device and hardware compatibility, some times speed, customization, and other stuff.  And it’s a free opensource OS.

    Although Windows is absolute shit, it’s got a pretty good defense system for how much it’s targeted these days.  Security Essentials does a wonderful job, if only it was built in, probably anti-trust issues on that.

    For a software company, Apple is better at hardware design than making software (except that their software does look nice and polished, but design doesn’t mean shit when it doesn’t work as well to the competition EX Norton AV…).

    • Anonymous

      The rest of the world has a life, we just want our computer to work. Thanks for your input though….

      • somedude0123

        Exactly ^

    • Anonymous

      Apple is a software company. That’s news!!

    • Anonymous

      Ubuntu doesn’t support the kinds of apps that people buy Macs and iOS devices to run. Linux is used on servers, so Linux developers have added many features that make it really good for running on servers. Similarly, Apple has added software features to the Mac for music studios, TV studios, photographers, and other creative professionals. They have added features for consumers who want to accomplish those kinds of tasks also. And they have created a system that requires very little IT management, which is a major feature for people who are not IT/CS types.

      Academically speaking, Ubuntu is over 10 years behind in its display subsystem alone, which still just draws pixels to the screen like it is still the 1980′s. It runs on BIOS from 1981, not EFI from 2005 like Apple. It’s great that it works for you, but Apple is not behind in software at all. Their leadership in software is what is behind their current success.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Steve, how long did it take Apple to copy Xerox?

    • http://twitter.com/Aleis Jayrock

      touche`

    • Anonymous

      Hey zaggs how long did it take for every company in the world to copy Apple? BOOOYAAAHHH

    • Anonymous

      Because Xerox had a working, marketable product and they didn’t receive compensation.

      Would you rather Apple not be inspired and the fate of the PC left in the hands of Xerox?

    • Anonymous

      Xerox licensed their technology to Apple for a million shares of Apple stock.

  • Anonymous

    All JOBS is saying we were in a deep hole microsoft came in “BILL GATES” helped us build better computers and gave us enough money to hold us through the next year jesus BGR selects certain videos about apple truth be told they were heading down the drain until they bgot help from another company but they would never be bigger than microsoft or draw in the kind of talent microsoft does or have the corporate contacts microsoft does.

    • Anonymous

      MS didn’t give them that much, and Apple had billions in the bank. It was more that MS started supporting the Mac platform with software. 

      And Apple was going down the drain because Jobs was gone.

      • Anonymous

        The main thing was settling various court cases that Microsoft was losing and getting both companies into a neutral posture (“For Apple to win, Microsoft doesn’t have to lose.”) A key thing was Microsoft had threatened to stop making Mac Office (which started on the Mac) unless Apple killed QuickTime, and in this agreement, Microsoft committed to do Mac Office for 5 years, including bringing it to Mac OS X.

    • Anonymous

      Your view of Microsoft is not right. They are the Wal-Mart of computing, not the Rolls Royce.

      • Anonymous

        Honestly Microsoft is the Rolls Royce and the wal_Mart of computing theres nothing apple can do to make microsoft look like a grain of salt. Matter fact name somethings that APPLE does or did that MICROSOFT didnt do or couldnt do.

  • Yourebroke

    Oh look, no iPhone rumors for the day so might as well pull a random Apple story out of your ass.  iBGR…fail.   And the iSheep will follow you into the flames.  Apple drones remind me of Lemmings.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Byers/1297256323 Thomas Byers

      Oh are your feelings hurt being hurt because there is no article about your crapdroid today? Theres 3 articles about iOS today and 0 about crapdroid. 3-0 …….WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!! No please wipe your eyes and blow your nose and grow up. 

      • Bringit

        word.

  • Anonymous

    Jonathan Geller got wood from this video and wanted to share it.

  • Bringit

    There is also video of Eric Schmidt and Larry Page in 1998 discussing how some day they hoped to try and copy and steal from great tech companies.

  • http://theiphonefever.blogspot.com/ Michael Schwartz

    Soo lame, not only does he look like Harry Potter but that was also the beginning of complete bankruptcy.

    Where would they be without Microsoft…

  • Tedley

    Wow, really relevant!  Maybe BGR has some footage from the Windows 95 event for us too!

  • Anonymous

    I’m just surprised Steve actually at one time owned a suit..

  • Anonymous

    Where would MS be without Apple? 

  • Anonymous

    Where would MS be without Apple? 

    • Anonymous

      You would still be typing in DOS prompt. Anyway the windows of today is nothing more than glorified DOS

  • Anonymous

    “[] if any one company gets a dominate position, no matter who that is, the rate of innovation is going drop..”

    -Steve Jobs, 1996

    How insightful that Mr Jobs is.

    • Anonymous

      That is why Apple only uses vendor neutral open standard Internet technologies. No company can dominate those in the way that nonstandard IE/Flash dominated the Internet. At one point, ARM tried to get PC makers to make ARM notebooks, but they could not get Adobe to build them a FlashPlayer, and PC makers did not think customers would buy a PC without FlashPlayer, so that effort died and Intel domination of PC CPU’s continued thanks to Adobe’s domination of Internet video. With HTML5, ARM can make its own video player. Anybody can. Nobody can be excluded, nobody can dominate.

      So the fact that Apple is large but only uses vendor neutral open standards has helped innovation on the Internet. For example, they put HTML5 on mobile phones, both their own and most everyone else’s because they open sourced their browser engine.

  • http://www.drpawz.com Slawek Bielawa

    What a stupid host, how many times did he say computer nerd? Haha what a douche.

  • Anonymous

    Dude is a genius, you have to admit.
    anon-surfing.it.tc

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