RBC: RIM’s turnaround remains cloudy

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While sales of Research In Motion’s brand new BlackBerry 7 devices won’t be reflected in RIM’s second-quarter earnings report next week, analysts still aren’t sold that the device launches have positioned RIM to rebound. In a note to investors on Thursday morning, RBC Capital Markets analyst Mike Abramsky wrote that he expects RIM’s earnings in the fiscal second quarter to narrowly beat the consensus, with revenue down 2% from the same quarter last year to $4.5 billion and earnings per share at $0.90. The Street sees revenue at $4.5 billion as well, but EPS estimates are slightly lower at $0.87. Abramsky also expects BlackBerry handset shipments to slide 9% from the first quarter to 12 million units, and PlayBook shipments are expected to grow from 500,000 in the first quarter to 650,000 in the second. Read on for more.

RBC believes RIM will also beat the Street’s consensus with its third-quarter guidance. While Wall Street expects revenue and EPS projections of $5.3 billion and $1.36, Abramsky is expecting revenue to fall between $5.5 billion and $5.8 billion with EPS in the $1.54-$1.58 range. He expects RIM to ship between 13.5 million and 14.6 million BlackBerry smartphones in the third quarter, 70% of which will be BlackBerry 7 devices, and PlayBook shipment growth is seen to slow as totals come in at 750,000 units.

Abramsky still sees RIM’s turnaround as uncertain in the near term despite better-than-expected performance. Checks performed by RBC at 90 Verizon Wireless, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile stores seem to indicate decent performance of RIM’s new BlackBerry 7 devices with 20% of stores having sold out of their inventory, though we do know that supply is something of an issue with some carriers. The big question mark is still QNX, however, as investors are looking for successful launches and fast adoption of RIM’s next-generation platform before confidence is restored. Abramsky sees several risks for RIM including lagging competitiveness and potential missed execution, and he is looking at the impact QNX device launches have on RIM’s North American market share next year as something of a barometer.

RBC reiterated its Sector Perform rating on RIM stock and maintained its $35 price target.

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  • Anonymous

    what’s up with the melodramatic title?

    • http://twitter.com/GRZLA Grizzly Atoms

      It reflects RIM’s future.

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      • Rudy

        man only a week into the school year and the children are already bored

      • Steve Jenkins

        well put…

    • Anonymous

      It actually sounds relatively optimistic compared to a lot of other analysis out there.

      • Anonymous

        only in the US cause Americans are suckers for virus ridden software and women

    • Haha

      fuck you

  • Jamma3

    Man you just don’t Stop…why don’t you just stop report on other phones and just stick with icrap.
    Wait till the Apple miss earnings because it’s coming one day, hope you will keep beating that dead horse.

    • Rudy

      That’s impossible.

      Market analysts put the bar extremely low, and then they lower it further during the months, and then SURPRISE!!! Apple is genius!

      If you don’t read market analyst crap, they will go away.  Keep reading technical articles and you will see the true worth of the products on the market.

  • Anonymous

    Zach – you’re a hypocrite. You report a positive note and then instantly kill it off with a negative report. You’re just another Gellar.

    • Anonymous

      You’re a blithering fool. This is the same guy who put out the puff piece, “Blackberry QNX phones are going to be awesome” just a week ago. He’s who’s fanboy? Please.

  • Max

    Not cloudy at all. It’s going down the shitter.

    • BB Addict

      explain your statements, seriously….. give real points..

    • Steve Jenkins

      Maury Povich: Mr. Lazaridis……the blood test confirms, you ARE Max’s Father…

    • Applesucksfatties

      @17392b4ae4c4df4201f474b2e294a08a:disqus  – Just like your hopes of….
      1. Having intimate female contact
      2. Making more than minimum wage
      3. Moving out of your mom’s basement
      4. Having friends (other than Scroat)
      5. Not being a douche

      • Greg

        U RIM-jobbers resort to insults because you know you’re supporting a sinking ship! GROW UP!!

      • Applesucksfatties

        Good job Greg..  you and Scroat related?  Is the ship sinking because of all the cash on their balance sheet? 

      • Steve Jenkins

        greg, I hate you already…

      • BB Addict

        no insults here….

      • The Thrasher

        AppleSux, why do you think all these posters are related???

        Guess you can’t figure out the majority of people think RIM sucks.

        Yup- go ahead, make an Anal, McDonalds, or gay comment. It’s your MO, time and time again.

      • Applesucksfatties

        aaaw sweet.  One of you little whiney b*tches flagged my comment so it has to be reviewed by a moderator….   waaaaah   wahhhhhhh.  You can dish it out but you can’t take it?

      • Applesucksfatties

        you toolsheds are all related.  I’m waiting for your brother Hillbilly to break out the broken record “f@g” and “unemployment” comments.  You losers really do need to get a life.  Aren’t there some fart apps you can be downloading on your iToy?

      • The Thrasher

        I didn’t flag shit. I am not s big pussy ass like yourself.

      • Applesucksfatties

        @bc48a658477efd76a7f79f5feb1be95c:disqus – that is certainly debatable..  but of course, everyone is a tough guy on the internet.   Try spouting your g@y/f@g comments in a big city…   you won’t be The Thrasher.. you’ll be The Thrashee..

      • The Thrasher

        From the looks of this, AppleSucks has no friends here.

        He really likes big piles of shit, after all he owns a 9000.

  • Anonymous

    All bullshit aside, at this point in time I just don’t see myself personally dropping a dime on Rim Stock. There’s tons of companies doing great things while Rim is Stuck in 2005. Only thing Rim got that’s really good is encrypted BBM and even Apple is going to offer a similar service for free pretty soon. If the next iPod touch comes with 3G and contract free along with iMessage, I’ll call Rim dead.

    • BB Addict

      too bad.. if you invested 2-3 weeks ago you would have made back 10 bucks on your stock so far….

      pretty good return for those that invested when they were in the low 20′s a month or so ago…

      alas.. you probably no more than to make money on a under rated stock…………………………………

      • http://twitter.com/GRZLA Grizzly Atoms

        If you invested in your education as much as you do being a fanboy, you would be typing correctly and not interested in beating a dead horse.

        RIM=Dead Horse

      • Steve Jenkins

        hold on grizzly, let me add you to the growing list of douchers on this site…

      • BB Addict

        Ah grizzly…. It doesn’t matter if its faux ignorance or real ignorance…. Your still ignorant..

        Your added to the list of names I will call out. Later on

      • Applesucksfatties

        @google-62fe04bcd77ee15f11fe8532e9ac130a:disqus – Grizzly is actually Max.. er Scroat.. er SB Mobile. 

      • Applesucksfatties

        BB – I was going buy a couple hundred shares of RIM stock when it was in the low 20s because I knew it was extremely undervalued.. but I never pulled the trigger and now I’m kicking myself because I could have made some easy cash.  

      • Anonymous

        Or you could have picked up apple at $87 and sold it at $390 a year or so ago lol. I did, I also made a few good bucks on palm. Rim is just too risky for me though.

      • Mirror Cracked

        You could always buy them now. Does the fact that you haven’t suggest anything to you?

    • http://twitter.com/CyrusGorji Kourosh Gorji

      An iPod Touch with 3g is exactly what an iPhone is…and the reason why RIM’s Stock should be bought is because it has a P/E ratio of 5, which means that even if you believe that RIM will lose half their market share, you should still BUY the stock, since their P/E is lower than that of a cheese factory with no growth prospects. Why don’t you stop giving advice if you are too much of an idiot to even understand what your are writing.

      • Anonymous

        No is not, a iPhone carries a 2 year contract a iPod 3G won’t, same as the iPad. Why don’t you think before you make dumb ass coments. Rim is almost dead and having 2 CEOs and a Few CFOs tells that none of them is capable of doing their jobs.

  • BB Addict

    Jesus…. why don’t we defer any talk about RIM’s future until they get QNX phones out the door… what the hell is the point.

    Step 1:  OS 7 stops the bleeding

    Step 2: QNX phones begin the turnaround….

    That was the plan, that was the goal.

    Step 1 is a success… Step 2 won’t be until early 2012.. we all know this…. there is nothing to do until then other than fawn over QNX phone leaks….

  • BB Addict

    RIM’s future is solid.  What OS 7 has shown is that it has a still strong loyal following in North America.

    This loyal following will be more than happy with the OS 7 phones. 

    Yes, OS 7 will not bring Android/iPhone users to Blackberry; however, no one should have expected them to

    OS 7 phones purpose is to keep RIM relevant and with a solid base to go to the next level.

    This base of followers in North America, combined with their SOLID overseas sales, will carry RIM through this transition.

    The Playbook does NOT need to be a top seller, it needs to lay the ground work that RIM makes top notch products and it has relatively succeeded at that and will go even further in September with OS 2.0 comes out…

    The Playbook with OS 2.0 will carry even further RIM’s new image.

    The only caveat is whether or not the QNX phone “Colt” will be implemented and delivered properly. 

    Yes RIM has lost fans to Android and iPhone but a great majority would gladly switch back to a QNX phone.

    People seem to think that just because a person leaves Blackberry… they will never come back.. and thats just not true….

    • Rudy

      People seem to think that just because a person leaves Blackberry… they will never come back.. and thats just not true….
      Agreed, as an ex-iPhone user…that said, it isn’t something to be expected, rather earned.

    • Ron Lunsford

      BB’s are flying in the corporate sector again… That’s RIM’s audience for the 9900 series and the 9810… The consumer sector is still such a lag behind – which I still blame on the Storm – and the 9850 is a perfect example of ‘trying to make a dent’…

      QNX should be a game changer for them, but if they can’t become “Sexy” like some of the Android devices and the iPhone, they are going to have to abandon the consumer devices and hit the corporate sector harder. They have always had a huge stronghold in the business community and will continue to do so for some time.

      • Mirror

        I agree in the main. But their huge problem at the moment is a result of their huge success a few years back. The consumer market is an order of magnitude larger than Enterprise. Shrinking a company by an order of magnitude does not make you popular with the average shareholder.  If QNX doesn’t prove to be the miracle potion they are claiming can’t see any option other than a sell off to another company. 

  • RIMTastic

    Maybe RIM needs a motivational B0lDbRry rap to help things along…..

    • Steve Jenkins

      your damn right! ;)

  • Ron Lunsford

    Can’t we just say that RIM is alive, making quality hardware again and is a solid investment in times where carriers are limiting data? With a 2GB cap on a BlackBerry, you don’t have to worry as much about overages (on my Storm I was consistently around 300-500MB during heavy usage and 100-250 on my 8130) compared to my almost regular 2.5-3 GB per month on my EVO now…

    Sure, there’s more data apps out now, but as far as functional options to keep that bill in check, Berries are still a great option.

    • http://twitter.com/GRZLA Grizzly Atoms

      The difference in data comes down the user experience. Blackberry is watered down and doesn’t give you a true web experience or enough applications to keep you playing around with your phone. People want a desktop style experience in their hands now. Unless QNX does this and much more it will be DOA.

      • BB Addict

        Grizzly!!! you just exposed yourself to being shot on knowledge!!! oh snap!!!

        “doesn’t give you a true web experience” – pretty darn sure its comparable experience to iOS now….

        “doesn’t give enough applications to keep you playing around..” – really??? really?? lets use iOS as an example.. yes it does have more apps that require you to obviously download in order to use.. .lets use Angry Birds to further the example.. yes you need to download that onto your iPhone…but.. from their… you don’t download the game every time you use it… to claim that iOS has more apps is true.. but.. to claim that it has SOOO MANY more useable apps/games that a typical iOS user is downloading game/app after game/app after game/app is just not factual.
         
        “people want a desktop style experience in their hands now” – really??? really??? iOS is more desktop like thatn RIM’s OS?????   lol on that one!!!

        Grizzly you just lost any remaining cred you had… I look forward to your attempt at a rebuttal to this.. should be good…

        flame out

  • Ian

    That’s one good lookin phone, cant wait for AT&T to finally launch this baby!!

  • Anonymous

    Bah, I think there is probably about 20-25 million enterprise Blackberry sales to be had each year, this isn’t going to change for some time.  The company can survive off that for at least a few more years even if QNX flops, which I doubt it will.  I think BB OS will remain a solid number 3 OS for at least the next 5 years.

    • Anonymous

      And there sure are another 20-30 million fanatics like me.

      I tried thw iPhone and the Evo and still came running back. And I’m very far from a technophobe.

      Maybe its the superior keyboard, or getting used to firing of emails with amazing speed (no need to even touch the trackpad once)…

  • Applesucksfatties

    Ol Abramsky spouting his ANAL..yst remarks.   I’m beginning to think that ol Abra is actually our famous ANAL…yst Scroat.

    • BB Addict

      Abramsky is always at least 3-4 weeks behind the forums……..

  • http://twitter.com/#!/PitoVH787 Pito V.H

    Rim suck this new phone don’t have front face camera , no auto focus ,and 5 mp camera come on this shit is old tech and for the price$ they are better phone in the market for $200  fuck QWERTY keyboard , put some good tech  on the phone and people will buy a Crapberry…….

    • Applesucksfatties

      Hey pita bread.. so suck on an iPhone.

      • The Thrasher

        This has to be the worst week ever for AppleSux… All these bad news stories about RIM. Probably bring that little pussy to his knees.
        Oh wait, I see a yo momma comment, maybe a McDonalds or anal comment from AppleSux.

      • Guest

        what bad news?

      • Applesucksfatties

        Ass Thrasher ….yeah, the bad news from ANAL…ysts like yourself reeeeally hurt my feelings.  Frankly, I could give two shits what you and your idiot brother Abramsky have to say.  GET A LIFE LOSER…

      • The Thrasher

        Yup all AppleSux can talk about is anal. Appears he like it. Issues with daddy??

    • Sean

      based on the syntax of your message me thinks it was typed on an IPhone

      • Applesucksfatties

        and it probably took him 3 hours to do it.  

  • Yoyo

    I have played with both new RIM phones at Verizon the Bold and Torch and i gotta say my opinion is still not changed. The devices are out of date compared to Android/iPhone and they’re like “better” Blackberries, but really that’s nothing to brag about.

  • Willy_Jack

    Where are the bad news for RIM here? 
    Good adoption in the enterprise world, since a long time BB OS7 finaly is also able to regain old BB users and gain new ones. Just look at the BB Forums, there are so many poeple coming back from iPhone and Android, it never happened like this since BB begun loosing market share.

    One of the reasons of buying a BB is the Keyboard, in times of data caps, the BB data compression should be another. Ever tried downloading large email attachments in another country? You wil pay 5 times more for data with every other phone than a BB. Same goes for browsing. But I am sure that most of the people posting crap about BB never leaved the State that they were born in, so of course, when you never leave your village, you will be happier with fart apps that will entertain you in your repetetive, boring and never changing life. I can understand that.

    And that RIM´s turnaround in the consumer space is not sure, should be clear to everyone with an IQ bigger than a slice of bread. Because investing in an ever changing market is always a gamble. That the iPhone would be a success was a 50/50 chance. Could have gone wrong and billions would have disappeared into oblivion. So in fact, this article is not even news. It is so far away from it, that i wonder if BGR has nothing else to report on….

    Ah and before i forget, the most dumb comments here are the ones that suggest that people would dislike hardware keyboards. Apart from security, email and PIM features, the only reason to buy a BB is the keyboard. And the marketshare that BB still has, proves that.

  • Guestman

    You know… this is just sad.
    I love blackberry. I love the look and feel of it more than any other device.
    When this new 9930 was released, I was even leavin my iPhone 4 for it.
    BUT it costs more than the iPhone 4??
    That’s just backwards. Who does that?
    Who releases a product worse than everything else and charges more?
    Blackberry.. I’m waiting on you to wise up. Im waiting..

    • Willy_Jack

      1) Carrier decision on the price. Look at the Bold 9900, who costs about 250$ and then look at the torch 9810, which costs 49$ if you buy it from AT&T. The internals are more or less the same. The price difference is 200$, and this is only the decison of the carrier.
      2) The BB ifrastructure, for exemple BIS is not cheap.

  • Anonymous

    When my blackberry pearl started making radom calls without the push of any button, I knew this company had no future.

    • Willy_Jack

      I mean, at least it made some calls. I had an iPhone 4, and it was really difficult to make some calls with it. And i had always dropped calls.

      You see what I did there? Your unimportant opinion, especially in such a subjective way, is better kept enclosed deep within your brain, and should never see the daylight….

      • Anonymous

        Willy_jack, my iPhone 4 is not for making calls, although I sometime make one or two calls on it. How do you use a blackberry ? With all ‘em buttons on it?.

      • Willy_Jack

        I have a Torch 9810, and i do not know how I use it. I am probably to dumb to figure out a way to write on the keyboard, to use a phone and end call button. 

        Your question is so abolutely dumb… I am impressed…. The comparison with a slice of bread would be too nice appereantly. And if you never make phone calls, you should probably buy an iPod touch anyway.
        And just to show that you give me perfect opportunity: How can you make phone calls when your iPhone never gets a good signal?

        Is it possible to cure idiotism nowadays? Heard of any antidote? I would be happy to help this guy….

      • Anonymous

        Willy,willy,willy, seems you’re frothing at the mouth and your eyes popping out of your head. Your heartbeat reaching a high crescendo. Slow down bro, I don’t want you popping some kind vein. You know how weak you are!

      • Willy_Jack

        And it seems that you have no arguments left. Come again when you are even half as intelligent as you think you are. 
        Or to become personal: Want to meet in person? I´ll show you my weak side.

    • Applesucksfatties

      Are you a guy carrying around a BlackBerry Pearl?  If so, did you put it in a little purse with your little dog?  

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