Canaccord sees slow PlayBook sales as iPad 2 continues to dominate tablet market

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Slower than expected sell-through of Research In Motion’s BlackBerry PlayBook tablet has prompted investment bank Canaccord Genuity to slash its sales estimates for RIM’s first tablet. BGR noted last week that Best Buy’s Labor Day sale likely indicated slow sell-through of at least one PlayBook model, and it looks like a recent round of checks jibes with our take. Canaccord analysts Michael Walkley and Matt Ramsay wrote in a research note that multiple retailers are seeing less than impressive sales of RIM’s slate. “Our August checks continue to indicate soft sales of RIM’s BlackBerry PlayBook with some retailers recently lowering prices on the device in attempt to move inventory,” the analysts said. As a result, Walkley slashed his full-year PlayBook sales projection substantially to 1.5 million units from earlier estimates of 2.2 million tablets. Read on for more.

Moving forward, the firm doesn’t see PlayBook sales picking up much in the near term, especially in light of the iPad 2′s continued domination of the tablet market. “With our checks indicating the iPad 2 continues to dominate sell through trends for the tablet market and our expectation for increased competition from Android OEMs such as Samsung, HTC, and even Amazon into the holiday season, we expected continued soft sales for the PlayBook,” the note states. Apropos, Canaccord lowered its 2012 PlayBook sales projection as well to 2.5 million tablets from an earlier forecast of 3.2 million units. Walkley reiterated his Hold rating on RIM stock with a price target of $35.

40 Comments
  • Jroll

    Should change the blog name from “Boy Genuis Report” to “Blackberry Gets Reamed” since that see to be the subject of most of your content

    • Anonymous

      maybe they should stop reporting news at all. The truth has an apple bias neh?

      • Jroll

        Why not try reporting some of the positives without slants, like that there have been reports that the new OS7 devices have had a successful lanch. This NEVER makes BGR news. Any positives also ALWAYS have a negative slant to them as well, take “Blackberry to benefit from Apples lawsuit with Samsung” in europe, even though they already do pretty well there on their own.

      • Anonymous

        Why do you think they save the report on the local dog show until the end of the newscast? No one gives a shit about “good” news anymore. Sign of the times bro. 

    • http://twitter.com/GRZLA Grizzly Atoms

      You should see have seen them a few years ago, its was all about BlackBerry’s. It seems everything BGR starts to cover a lot becomes obsolete. Is the iPhone next?

    • Anonymous

      still can’t believe it I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use BidsNéw.com

      • RIMsucks

        How many iPad 2 and HDTVs do you have now? Must be a bunch since you troll like a bitch all day long.

  • http://MobileGenius.wordpress.com JM

    Too much is missing from the device. Even if RIM is getting bashed unfairly right now, there is some criticism that they deserve very much, and the Playbook is a prime example.

    Missing: Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Email, BBM.

    Can’t use it for work. It isn’t as consumer friendly as other tablets so I won’t buy it in place of competing devices. What’s left?

    • Rudy

      I think RIM is playing the investment firms perfectly right now.  This is the good news they want to see.  I have found that analysts have been constantly over estimating what RIM can deliver, and when they don’t make that estimate, sad faces, bad media publicity and the reputation goes down.

      Apple on the other hand is constantly having low forecasts, and then suddenly analysts are still dropping their estimates.  They easily surpass the forecasts and the hype machine continues!!

      I replied to your thread because one wonders if this is somewhat on purpose by RIM…

      ‘Missing: Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Email, BBM’

      You would think with these key elements the estimates should be much lower?  As for the hardware and QNX – I think if you talked to any real tech person or even analyst, for being out for how long it is, Android hasn’t completely eclipsed it yet.  With Playbook 4G + potential hardware upgrades still not bad.

  • Sosa

    Most people buy Ipads without thinking of giving the playbook a chance. A friend of mine works for microsoft and said to me once…it all comes down to perception and the public’s perception of anything phone or tablet wise (most that is) would be apple can do no wrong…the sad part is while a very good brand it simply isn’t true. The playbook is a very good tablet along with others in the tablet ecosystem right now but people won’t give them a try…lol

    • SheriffBart

      Perception is a large part of the equation.  I believe the Playbook is superior to the Ipad.  But what may make me go with the IPad is the fact that every Tom, Dick, and Harry is creating apps for the Ipad.  Everytime I turn around, I see an IPad app that I’d love to use. 

    • Anonymous

      The problem with your statement is that it’s universally accepted that the iPad is still the best tablet out there. There is good hardware out there but this isn’t the issue. In an effort to compete with the iPad, everyone is releasing products (specifically software) before they’re ready and are getting ripped apart in reviews.

      You can’t change perception. The only way to beat Apple is on price. Since Apple is the only company that can guarantee 40 million tablets sold this year they get parts cheaper than anyone else and can compete on price with many because of this.

      • Anonymous

        The question is not can Apple complete on price.  They can.  The question is will Apple compete on price?  They won’t… and that makes their business model very, very vulnerable.  This is MacIntosh/iMac versus PC all over again and we all know how that turned out.   Steve Jobs is getting out just in time.

      • Anonymous

        bzzt.  Apple is competing quite fine on price… Who is undercutting Apple on value?  Remember, ‘value’ is what people buy.   If they are not buying your tablet, you’re fundementally overpriced for the value.

        I call BullSh*t on the Apple/PC comparison. Apple happens to be what, in the top 3/5 of PC manufacturers in the US market?  Can’t compete?  If this is ‘can’t competing’  I want to find more _losers_ like Apple (as a stock holder).  

        Consumer and stock holder value… Apple is competing just fine.

        Note Apple’s Pricing strategy on the iPod when Zune was announced.    Why is the 2nd highest selling phone on ATT’s network not an android device, but the iPhone 3GS?   Apple isn’t letting people undercut them on price of value.  

        You may hate them for a lot of reasons, but ability to deliver value can’t be one of them.

    • Anonymous

      Unfortunately that’s not really true. PlayBook got universally poor to middling reviews from almost all tech publications and there is very little about it that makes it appealing for most users over other tablets.

      I use one and it is a well made tablet with pretty decent horse power and a good screen but I would be hard pressed to find a good reason to recommend it over webOS and Android tablets, let alone an iPad. It is not even cheap.

      • Sosa

        Interesting…I have watched many reviews and haven’t heard anything bad about the pb other than apps and the native email (which is coming) for right now it’s a very good tablet and on par with all in the market.

      • Anonymous

        That’s correct the only thing reviewers complained about was about the lack of native email and apps otherwise the unit itself is first rate.
        I bought it at launch and since I have a blackberry the lack of native email or apps is not relevant to me because the bridge app provides email and calendar and with the full internet anywhere I go other apps are not of interest

    • Anonymous

      Metcalf’s Law.  The value of the network (device) goes up by the square of it’s userbase.   Apps are built, books are written, communities form, and the value gained is non-linear.  People buying the devices know that.  

      It was the same with BB 6 years ago… It’s not like they didn’t get their day in the sun.

      BTW, it’s not ‘the’ tablet ecosystem…  It’s a bunch of tablet petrie dishes… hardly a system.

      Apple’s ITMS/AppStore  is a ‘eco’system. (media, apps, mail, support, all under one experience, oh, and also iPods, iPhones, Macs, and AppleTV are all residents of said ecosystem). 

      Fanboy or not, we have to agree to the non-technical consumer (every technical consumer has bought their tablet/iPad, or is waiting forever for the one with perfect specs by now… the next person buying is someone who doesn’t know the difference between C# and B flat) shops based on brand image.  Other than corporate blackberry tech support people, are there 5 million people who even _know_ about Playbook?

  • Anonymous

    The PlayBook should be renamed the PieceOfCrapBook.

    • Rudy

      with that childish remark I rebuttal with ‘yo mamma’

    • Anonymous

      Wow. Bravo. Just…bravo.

    • Anonymous

      you should be renamed pieceofSh!tHead

  • Anonymous

    ipad is the dominate tablet. Get out of town. Is the iphone the dominate smartphone? It is. Get out of town. Is the ipod the dominate portable music player? It is. Get out of town. Is the mac the best computer it the world. It is. Get out of town.

    • Anonymous

      To that, I respond: Get out of town. Just out of curiosity, i would like to know your criteria for determining that the Mac is the “best” computer, it would seem rather ignorant of you if there wasn’t at least a little bit of reasoning behind that statement.

  • Anonymous

    I’m surprised how well this tablet is doing in the face of iPad.  PlayBook is RIM’s first tablet and their first shot at a brand new OS.  It took Apple and Google years to get their OS’s to their current level.

    Aside from poor app support (which will change), I think the QNX OS is realy close to being at the level of iOS and Android.

    The way I see it, the PlayBook is a loss-leader that will make the transition to a QNX ‘slate’ phone smoother.

    • Anonymous

      ‘really’ close?

      hmmm, people were saying it surpassed iOS and Android technically months ago, since QNX has existed for years. and runs SCADA systems, medical devices, etc. 

      iPad was Apple’s first tablet.  I don’t see the growth curve as impressive.  Playbook had a year to learn from Apple’s mistakes.   When it was released it should have been at a par of iPad 2.

      you making this sound like a ‘sacrificial’ device to pave the way for a slate phone seems a reversal from everyone else’s logic (build a small subsidized device, before you rollout a larger, more expensive device)

      But then again, RIM does seem to defy logic.

      • Anonymous

        You’re comparing apples to oranges.  The iPad runs on iOS, which has been around since the first iPhone.  Apple had years to fine tune that OS, then ported it (along with their giant app library) to the iPad with stellar results.

        QNX had been around for a while, being used in nuclear plants and medical devices etc. but I don’t know how many of those devices had to have a gesture-based interface, web browser, application support and such.

        RIM screwed up big time by not including native email, bbm when the PlayBook shipped.  Also, there is a lack of apps.  But what I’m saying is they are one software update away from solving two of their biggest issues.  Software update 2.0 will feature native email, BBM, Calendar and will allow Android applications to function.  Shortly after that, the LTE versions will be released (there’s your subsidized device).

  • Anonymous

    Playbook OS 2.0 will silence a lot of haters.  I think you will see a lot of sales when it comes.

  • Ian

    Remember there is a small tablet market and then a iPad market. Playbook is doing quite well despite of RIM not having the mass media marketing engine as Apple has – Still PB did much better than HP and most low end Android tablets out there today.

    QNX is still very new, iOS has 4 years in the market – still i prefer QNX over iOS any day. Haters always gonna hate – PB is a great TV companion, work tool, a REALLY portable gadget  and it’s future updates (2.0) promises to be VERY interesting.

    In case you haven’t looked at the PB recently, you would be happy to know their latest update now allows your PB Apps to use your BB phone’s data through bridge (bluetooth) connection (without wifi or another monthly plan) – Now this is being SMART!

    Applebees, keep wasting your money on fart apps and tied down to iTunes (aka Big Brother) for everything you do on YOUR iOS gadget.

  • Eric

    There really isn’t a tablet market… it is really an iPad market. Customers aren’t just buying a tablet to have a tablet. Most customers are buying iPads because it is the complete package (tablet and iTunes). iTunes sells iPad and vice-versa. That is what is lacking on other tablets.

    After the iPod came out there were plenty of companies that tried to make music players. How many of them are in business today? Even a big company like MS couldn’t launch one that could grab any real market share. Look at tablets today. Others are trying to do what Apple did, but they can’t do it. HP failed. Others have failed and will continue to fail. They can’t compete with the complete package that Apple provides.

    I am not saying that other companies can’t make and market tablets that customers will buy, but I am saying that Apple will dominate the market share until some company can do the complete package of hardware and market place/store.

  • Max

    But but but but but but but you RIMjobbing morons said that delivered=sell-through? You said that since deliveries were brisk, obviously sell-through is also? What’s the truth, tech-mental-midgets? The truth is nobody wants a 7″ toy when their phones are just as big and you can’t put a 7″ toy in your pocket, though you RIMjobbers would probably love to. Too big to be portable, too small to be useful. Remember I told ya so, morons? 

    • Steve Jenkins

      Lazaridis agreed to a blood test…are you ready for the news?

  • Zachary P.

    You know, you don’t have to be an Wall Street analyst to know that Playbooks are not selling…  Just walk into any retailer!  Most recently, I was in a Best Buy Saturday only to see the Playbook demo unit not even working…  Just a blank screen…  I asked a salesperson, who shrugged: “well, it was working last week.”  Nobody noticed, nobody knew what to do, nobody cared…

    Sadly, this is not a random event…  After visits to five or six retailers in the last month – Radio Shack, Best Buy, Office Depot, it’s obvious that Playbooks are not moving…  And of course the carriers aren’t selling them…

    We’ll find out RIM’s latest Playbook ‘shipped’ number on September 15 – my guess is less than 1.5 million…  How many have actually ended up in the hands of human customers, of course, is anybody’s guess…

    If only Wall Street Analysts got out of their offices every once in a while and looked around, they wouldn’t have to depend on price cut moves by retailers to understand what is going on…  The iPad is absolutely crushing the Playbook…

  • Flintchesthair

    I don’t understand why thes tablet manufacturers can’t get it through thierry heads that people are going to the store to by an iPad, not look for a tablet.

    Look, it’s simple. Make a tablet with android or blackberry or what ever os you prefer and then make it cheap, like half as much. Make it plastic and shitty but make sure your os runs smoothly. Suddenly everyone will start talking about how it’s better than the iPad because either it is in fact better, or they are defending there decition so as not to look poor. Then, after all of the tweens, you know the driving force behind Most new tech, start buying them make a nice, quality, adult tablet.

    Nope, instead the plan seems to be make a competing tablet, charge as much or more than the industry leader, and just promise people that it’s really good and they should buy it instead.

  • David

    Hey RIM!  Drop it to $99.   It will sell out…

  • Anonymous

    With QNX OS 2.0 coming, all deficiencies of the PB will be addressed:
    1.) App tonnage (Android Player and QNX NDK/SDK)
    2.) Native Email
    3.) Native BBM
    What are you turdlings going to bitch about then?  I’m sure you’ll find something.

    And I can’t wait for other platforms to steal the bridge idea… and they will.

    • David

      Spoken like a rabid BB fanboi.   I’ve currently got a BB, but I’m certainly not a fan.   Can’t wait to dump this POS Storm2 which periodically requires a battery pull (generally at THE MOST inopportune times).  Every few months I have to refresh the OS to keep it limping along.  RIM should be ashamed.    oh, one more thing–those two clowns (also known as the co-CEO’s) need to GO.

    • Anonymous

      So, the people who bought PBs 4 months ago, will get their features…eventually!  Wow, great, I want a tablet from a company that doesn’t know when they’ll add the features that many/most people want!

      When/if they ever deliver those features, we’ll have a turdling convention to discuss what we should bitch about.  The turdling convention is tentatively scheduled for 2013.

      Why the hell would anybody steal the bridge idea?  So they can read their email on their iPad, no wait, it totally does that already (on launch, if you can imagine!).

      Regarding ‘app tonnage’…if those apps aren’t well integrated to run well on PB (UI, performance), it won’t matter how many there are.

      PB is good hardware, great browser, but the launch was incredibly half assed with a half finished device. It’s certainly possible that OS2.0 will be great (though I’m not betting on that), but with the way they’ve screwed their customers around so far, they’ve made PB adoption that much more difficult.

  • http://twitter.com/SonsofAres Sons of Ares

    Why doesn’t everyone cancel their subscription? Might be more effective.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/PitoVH787 Pito V.H

    Ipad 2 is hot… simple

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