HP may resurrect TouchPad, head of PC business says

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On August 18th, HP announced that it was killing off its webOS devices business and considering a possible spin-off of its personal systems group (PSG). The head of HP’s PC business, executive vice president Todd Bradley, discussed the TouchPad and his company’s PC business with Reuters, explaining that a spin-off could be the “best value” for HP’s investors instead of an outright sale to competitors such as Acer or Lenovo. “Regardless of what happens, we’re the largest PC company in the world,” Bradley explained. “We need everybody energized, and while this isn’t business as usual, we need people to go out and sell products every day,” he said, noting that HP will still remain a major customer to suppliers such as LG, Microsoft, Intel and Samsung. At least one analyst has remarked that a spin-off could kill HP’s brand value. Even more surprising, however is Bradley’s remarks about HP’s TouchPad, which the company recently discontinued and sold off in a fire sale. According to Reuters, Bradley said HP may resurrect the TouchPad and noted that the tablet computing segment is “relevant, absolutely.” While Bradley appears to be standing by HP, BGR exclusively reported on August 22nd that the executive is looking to leave the company for a CEO role at another firm.

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  • http://twitter.com/GRZLA Grizzly Atoms

    The only reason people bought it was because it was $99 and in hopes that Android will be ported to it. Bad idea HP.

    • Anonymous

      Really? People had/have hopes that Android will be ported to the TP? Ok. That’s about a few hundred people.

      • http://twitter.com/GRZLA Grizzly Atoms

        Yes, really. There is currently a collection going to the first person who gets Android fully installed and functional on the touchpad. The current bounty right now is $2,300 and that number will probably creep up a little more before there is a fully functional port on the touchpad.

        Just because you aren’t an Android user doesn’t mean everyone else isn’t. Pull your head out of your ass.

      • Soapboxpreacherman

        After using a Asus Transformer (3.2) and going to the TouchPad…Webos is far more stable, better organized, better web, better on screen keyboard, spell checker, better account integration, better facebook integration, betting IM integration, better speakers, the list goes on.  It covers the core use of a tablet and does it better!   Android more over honeycomb is an unfinished messy implementation of android.  It is buggy and unorganized.  Yes it has more apps but it also needs more.  I need 3 apps to do IMing on an Android, I need one on the TP…the one it came with.  Browser Force closes even with 3.2, Web is choppy, and the UI get extremely slow from time to time.  And as I said no in line spell checker…stupid!  Putting android on this now is a waste. If the webos does indefinitely die then I might considering it.  But using both side by side…there is no reason to move.  Webos is far more polished!  If anything put preware on and run some of the patches…it is far easier then rooting and the device because substantially faster!!  HP has dumped the hardware but has not bumped the software.  I have seen froyo running on it…yet another waste of time!  

      • http://twitter.com/GRZLA Grizzly Atoms

        The commenting structure won’t let me reply to you for some reason Soapboxpreacherman but all of the things you are mentioning are baffling. First, Honeycomb isn’t the most stable OS but you are definitely not familiar with Android if you are having this many issues. 

        Keyboard? There are literally at least 5-10 alternate keyboards you can download from the market specifically for Honeycomb. Spell check? This is done by most keyboard AS YOU ARE TYPING! Account integration? I have never had a problem on my Acer a500 with connecting various accounts to it. Facebook? Well lets be honest, facebook is shitty and so is their application on Android. This isn’t Google’s fault, you might want to shoot an email over to facebook about that one. IM? There are at least 10 multi-protocol IM clients for Android. Speakers? Yeah, I will give you that one.

        The main difference between webOS and Android similar to how it differs from Apple’s iPad. With Android you aren’t coddled like a baby. Android isn’t for all users and its pretty clear that you aren’t one of those users. I would highly suggest you pick up an iPad or a TouchPad.

        As to you bringing up Honeycomb here, the people trying to port Android to the TouchPad aren’t porting over Honeycomb. They are porting in a specific order so that they can progress the development of the device. The Cyanogen Mod team is attempting to get CM7(2.3.5) running on the TouchPad with Tablet features built in. Currently the source for Honeycomb isn’t available to developers.

      • Geokaplan

        That advice works both ways.

        There is no reason to assume that a substantial number of TP purchasers are buying with an eye towards future Android use. Most apparently simply bought because it was a ridiculous deal and they figured to use it as an email/browser device for cheap.

      • Anonymous

        Interesting. You assume I am a webOS user and not a Andriod user. I had the thunderbolt, charge, and many other android devices. You see, I buy them at retail, try them out and resell. With that said, I believe that 90% of users DO NOT root their android devices nor are aware of a port in process. A small percent of users read tech blogs like BGR. Gizmodo, Engadget, et al. In the grand scheme, a few dozen people that will port android to the TP is inconsequential in the long term. What version of android are they messing with anyway? There’s some many devices that are still on 2.1.

        My head is now out of my ass.

      • Anonymous

        “Currently the source for Honeycomb isn’t available to developers”
        But…but…but Android is supposed to be *open*!

      • Soapboxpreacherman

        Grizzly I know a lot about android…rooted a number of devices.  I am not impressed.  The fact that we need to root’n'rom to get the most out of android shows me that either google nor the manufacturer has done a good job on implementation.  And yes my transformer with either onscreen keyboard it has does not spell check.  It is in accurate, sluggish and buggy.  Honeycomb feels like a beta release and is very unorganized.  Especially when you compare it to iOS or WebOS.  It lacks polish and isnt very stable.  The task management is poor, memory management is poor, battery life depends on the device can be good unless we are talking thunderbolt.  My Sammy phone is great on battery for a smart phone but it is a pig performance wise.  TouchWiz is garbage and tries to copy apple, it is slow but with a root and a rom, it is much better but to expect the average user to do this to get this and other android devices to run substantially better is foolish.  There is too much fragmentation in the android arena and as much as you try and justify it I am getting off the bandwagon.  It is apparent you do not own a webOS device and just because you played with one at the store for 5 minutes doesnt make you a critic.  

        As for account integration something you know nothing about.  With webos the email app (Singular) does yahoo, gmail (Multiple), exchange, IMAP, POP, Hotmail, etc.  All in one!  With android, I need the gmail app for gmail (in order to get all out of gmail).  I need the built in android email app for exchange (or touchdown), then a 3rd app for yahoo (There app)…that is 3 apps compared to 1!  As for gtalk…the first gmail account you add is the one and only one gtalk uses…it supports one account logged in at one time!  So I need 2 other IM apps on android, eBuddy to cover AOL, Yahoo, and my other gmail account.  Then I need Skype…WebOS…the built in app…THAT DOESNT HAVE ADS does it all!   1 App!  Facebook…Friendcaster, FriendMe…they are alright but the free version have once again ADS and they dont run well.  Yet again Webos has a better app for facebook…without ads!   

        Just my opinion but, Webos is more intuitive, cleaner, more stable, simpler, more organized and considerably more user friendly.  If android and iOS had a kid web OS would be it.  Oh and need I mention the notification system…webos is light years ahead of the rest in this department.

        But dont let me stop you from drinking the android kool-aid, I like android but people like you make me dislike it because you are narrow-minded and an android troll.    Their are other tablets and smartphone that in many eyes rival those of your might android.  I am a user of all and I prefer webos to them all.  And I have prewared mine…which was substantially easier then rooting or jailbreaking.  Not to mention it can be all reversed without starting over!

    • Anonymous

      guys i cant believe this!! me and my sister just got two i-pads for $42.77 each and a $50 amazon card for $9. the stores want to keep this a secret and they dont tell you.
      go here, EgoWin .com

    • Anonymous

      Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good tablet with Android?

    • Anonymous

      Um no. I bought one and putting Android on it would be a downgrade.

  • Anonymous

    After HP’s failure, why would anyone believe anything these people say?? The next day after the announcement, Bradley confirmed he was looking for a CEO job elsewhere. The funny thing is, he still thinks they’re #1. What a joke!

    • Anonymous

      I agree. When it comes to adoption, especially critical early adoption and press endorsement, dependability is probably the most important trait. HP has shown itself to be unreliable, and I doubt most techies or journos would whole-heartedly support anything coming out of the WebOS division. HP cut off its nose with that move, and they’ve got to learn to live with their new face.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T3NRV5OOEQS5Y52QG6WG6SMTEU ML

    Interesting.  I like webOS, but they need to reduce the lag and latency.

    • Peter Fitzenwell

      Jailbreak and over clock …runs great for me ..

      • Anonymous

        “Jailbreak and over clock”  that is a lame answer.  Sure for the less then 1% of people that is a fix, but for the stupid masses of consumers that just bought that thing, they are going to notice the lag and that is not going to help WebOS at all.  In order to be sucessful, a device has to be good out of the box.

      • Anonymous

        Something people said about Android for ages…..

    • Soapboxpreacherman

      Install Preware…trust me…also make sure you have webos 3.0.2.  Preware patches speed this thing up substantially!  Then if you want throw on UberKernel and it will really fly!  It is easier then rooting and can all be uninstall if you dont like them!  It makes this device rock solid and performance substantially better!

  • Anonymous

    Called it…cheap advertising with the fire sale

    • Anonymous

      Cheap advertising? Really. Sounds like a seriously dangerous way to buy your way into a market that is moving fast. Anything but cheap. A very expensive mistake, and if they are going this way then they are going to fail big time.

  • Rob

    This is a huge clusterfuck. It’s so disheartening that Palms great os had to get caught up in it.

    • Anonymous

      Seriously, what a disaster. And an unfitting end to poor Palm indeed.

  • Anonymous

    For the love of god HP don’t make the darn thing look like a Turd again, please hire a design team. I think the best thing will be to license WebOS to Samsung and HP just focus on the software.

  • http://www.rwalrond.com RWalrond

    Well Duh, of course the touchpad is coming back, except this time it will be running Windows 8. Do you really think the #1 PC seller is not going to sell Windows 8 tablets/slates?

    • Anonymous

      ummm I think you missed the part of them spinning off their PC business altogether

      • http://www.rwalrond.com RWalrond

        umm, since when did spin off == shutdown? lol, I guess you think HP will stop selling PC’s in the mean time. Touchpads or whatever they call them will be back once Windows 8 ships. Like it or not, HP has a better chance with Windows 8 compared to webOS.

  • ABC

    What ever HP. Whatever you did to WebOS. I will never trust you again. No matter what. What a disappointment.

  • Parshooter220

    Bradley was reported in the WSJ to be interviewing for every CEO position he could find.  

  • Jackie

    This title is extremely misleading.  There is some serious interpretation problem by the author

  • U.N. Owen

    ‘Based on the huge number of people who bought (at FIRESALE, DISCONTINUED…UNSUPPORTED – and currently, UNSUSTAINABLE AT REGULAR MARKET PRICE) TouchPad’s,’ I’d say that – for HP – to make such statements utterly idiotic.

    So far, the rush to buy TouchPads – which have practically NIL supported apps, is NOT an ‘indicator’ of what WILL be.

    Jack the price back – right now – same circumstances (HP’s Kip edit, no apps, etc.), BUT…at ts ORUGINAL market price.

    SILENCE.

  • Anonymous

    It’ll be great if HP revitalizes the TP, puts out a new model, then after 49 days, another fire sale, they should just repeat this over and over.

  • http://MobileGenius.wordpress.com JM

    Yeah, if they resurect the TouchPad it will need a new body and some better guts. The last combination was not in good shape. Like a big girl in a bikini…it needs a change.

  • Anonymous

    I think they will continue to support the TouchPad they just need people to buy the damn thing first

    • Anonymous

      The best PR

  • Ulysses Grant

    HP should resurrect TouchPad, put Android on it and sell it for $149.00.

  • Mpulze

    It seems that HP has no idea which direction the Company is heading. I don’t want any of their products until they decide what the heck they are doing.

  • Donnydon

    First of webos is 1000000 times better than ios or android. Sorry to tell you honeycomb is horrible. Hp is still supporting webos and touchpad with UPDATES. Again i have the asus eee pad. Ive never seen a os crash more. Specs wise the touchpad is amazing. Webos is sexy but set back is little apps.

  • Anonymous

    “ the executive is looking to leave the company for a CEO role at another firm”.  Another spin off firm that will continue to make/sell the touch pad???  harharharhar

  • http://twitter.com/Mattviator Matt viator

    HP should have a server division a laptop division and a tablet division kill off the desktops webOS is bar none the best mobile is and this is coming from a huge android fan

  • http://twitter.com/GoonerYoda JC

    The firesale proved that HP can’t handle the web traffic that flooded the site.  Who’s going to want HP running their Enterprise now?

    • http://twitter.com/Mattviator Matt viator

      not in defense of HP but the sale crushed the servers of dozens of major retailers that carried the device they were totally unreachable. And we are talking huge companies here not mom and pops. if you go over to the slickdeals thread almost every site on the list was unreachable at times with the exception of amazon.

  • http://twitter.com/Mattviator Matt viator

    webos is the best mobile platform bar none and this is coming from from a huge android fan. HP should have a server group and a mobile group. Mobile should consist of ultralight laptops ala MacBook air tablets and phones all running webOS They should kill desktops off asap

  • http://bcablog.com BCA

    That’s interesting- “the executive is looking to leave the company for a CEO role at another firm.” Seems like he is doing a pretty good job there….

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