British Parliament member calls for BBM suspension following London riots

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BlackBerry maker Research In Motion has agreed to work with London authorities as they begin their investigation into recent riots. According to some Londoners, rioters were using RIM’s BlackBerry Messenger service, along with social networks such as Twitter, to organize the attacks. “It is clear that technology is being used, including in demonstrations, to direct people and undermine the police,” London’s deputy assistant commissioner Stephen Kavanagh told Bloomberg. “It is not for us to to moan about this, but to adapt policing style and deal with it.” RIM typically prides itself on the security of its BBM service and has denied access to governments worried the chat platform could be used for planning terrorist attacks. “We feel for those impacted by the riots in London,” RIM wrote in a recent tweet. “We have engaged with the authorities to assist in any way we can.” Read on for more.

Despite RIM’s efforts, one Member of Parliament, David Lammy, has called on the Canadian company to suspend BlackBerry Messenger services while the riots continue, Reuters said. “This is one of the reasons why unsophisticated criminals are outfoxing an otherwise sophisticated police force,” Lamme tweeted. “BBM is different as it is encrypted and police can’t access it.”  Twitter isn’t giving up information as quickly. A spokesperson for the social network told Bloomberg that it would require a “subpoena or court order” before giving the police access to private user information. Read on for more on how one group of hackers is reacting to RIM’s cooperation.

A hacker group who calls themselves “Teampoison,” recently broke into RIM’s official BlackBerry blog and warned the company to stay out of the riots. In a letter, the group said:

If you do assist the police by giving them chat logs, gps locations, customer information & access to peoples BlackBerryMessengers you will regret it, we have access to your database which includes your employees information; e.g – Addresses, Names, Phone Numbers etc. – now if u assist the police, we_WILL_make this information public and pass it onto rioters.

Teampoison said it was afraid that “innocent members of the public” carrying BlackBerry smartphones “at the wrong place at the wrong time,” could be “charged for no reason at all.”

Read [Bloomberg] Read [Reuters]

33 Comments
  • HeadsUp

    first!

    • Me

      second!

    • Bang goes the Brand

      Ouch!!  Must be difficult to see your brand transform from “iconic” status symbol to feral rioter’s device of choice in just a few short years.

      Perhaps they can boost flagging sales by giving away a free hoodie with every device sold??

      .

  • Anonymous

    Yes, because BBM is the sole cause of these riots. Put your heads in the sand a little deeper.

  • Anonymous

    Umm, if they don’t use BBM, they’ll use something else.

    • BenPatterson

      Not true… If they decided to use SMS, that can actually be traced… But BBM is run via a secure encrypted data base, which the police cannot access 

  • Anonymous

    BBM involved in the riots?  I thought only three people used it……..

    • sirpaul

      If you really did, you’re an idiot.

  • http://marcparadise.com/ Marc Paradise

    Factual corrections:
    RIM told India they couldn’t give access to BES connections of all types (they don’t have the encryption keys), which has nothing to do with the consumer BIS space (including consumer BBM and email).  I would be very surprised to learn any government cannot get access to consumer BBM messages when following appropriate due process.

    Opinion:
    WTF? Hopefully thjey’re going to discuss banning texting, IMing, social clients, etc – as all of these can be used to organize this kind of activity, so we wouldn’t want to see any left out.

  • Anonymous

    While watching the BBC today it was suggested that since this is not a government intrusion into the RIM system they are “assisting”, so any messages relating to criminal activity could be passed on by RIM to the police.

  • Mayor Nut

    Could they also tell the Parliament member to help Philly, flash mobs are using technology to coordinate here as well.  Ban a gun, they use a knife.  Idiot nanny state.

  • Anonymous

    I guess twitter and Facebook need to be banned too, Because, we all know that technology causes riots and not people.

    • Anonymous

      I hear postal mail can be used to deliver communications also. QUICK, SOMEONE STOP THAT TOO!

  • Anonymous

    When Egypt suspended the cell phone & internet service during the revolution, it got torn apart and criticized by the western world… Now, British parliament is calling for suspending BBM service… Wow… Sub(OB)jectiveness of Democracy / Freedom at it’s best.

    • Nurelli

      koçum benim… :)

    • GUESS

      Nothing new!! The WEST has always practice DOUBLE STANDARDS!!! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT???

  • QNX Please

    Another stupid person elected to office… Seriously if BBM is suspended… people will just use SMS, Twitter, facebook or actually call people to replace it. 

    And we elect these idiots to office.

  • Anonymous

    OMG. This is absolutey dumb.

  • Anonymous

    This is a Royal outrage;
    how are hard-working drug dealers supposed to communicate with their employees?

  • IceMan711

    First amendment much?  lol suckers!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Blk-Cat/1785865170 Blk Cat

      I wouldnt crow too much there Ice.

      America aint very free anymore either.

  • BerryKing

    First and foremost, RIM is dumb to have made this comment public and should of just shut their mouth and help the police if they wanted to.
    Second of all,  RIM should respect the privacy and procedures put fowards by the law to give the correct information of the people on which the law enforcement have enough evidence to demand a court order to have access to the BBM infos they are looking for!
    Third but not least, those morons leading the governments needs to get a boost of intelligence cause shutting down BBM is not gonna stop the riots! As far as i know, BBM wasnt there 20 years ago and they still had riots than!
    There was a riot about 2-3 years ago in the area where I live (Montreal, Canada where a kid has been shot by a cop and killed for no good apparent reason) and nobody from the people I knew involved had BBM to communicate during the riot! And let me tell you, it was somethin to see! (Not that im all for it but it was somethin to see)

  • Chut Pata

    Censorship!  I wonder if China had asked Blackberry to do the same, what would the reaction of UK would have been.  Oh I remember how they acted when China wanted Google to cooperate!

  • Max

    No surprise here. Only RIMjobbing MORONS use BBowelMovement.

    • DJ

      You are a moron with no creativity…. American school system at its finest.. SMDH

  • http://twitter.com/dontbecreepy Dat Nguyen

    I am still waiting for people to show up in Guy Fawkes masks…

  • nice

    nice. this just goes to show the extent of the security of bbm. it’s one place big brother cant watch

  • Anonymous

    That’s stupid.
    BBM is just the top of the iceberg.
    Even if the Parliament remove all possible way to communicate (email, sms, phone calls.. whatever), the people will use morse code or smoke signal.
    Removing the BBM will not solve anything.

  • Rob Lowry

    Wow …
    I guess civil liberty and personal freedom get tossed right out the window as soon as things get a little rough?.?.?.  Shame on British officials and shame on RIM. Perfectly OK to point fingers at the Mideast and China when they do something similar, but when we do it…it’s OK?.?.?.

    Booooooooo Hisssssssssssssss

  • Anonymous

    All these damn kids and their Blackberries!

  • RH

    If certain people were saying “go here and break stuff” it would be one thing, but if they were saying go here and peacefully protest, then some other idiots start blowing stuff up, it would be something completely different.  You can bet those in the know in the USA have their fingers on the “internet kill switch” (so to speak) in case some idiots try to do a massive flash mob across the USA, which will only affect the larger cities, as those of us in flyover country wouldn’t mind seeing parts of the left & right coast burn down so we can start all over again LOL.

  • Generik

    Why is it that whenever 3rd world governments try and suppress communications, it’s a human rights outrage, but if Britain wants to, they get a free pass because it’s in the interest of ‘Justice’.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Cave/15601620 Ben Cave

    Some of you are just plain idiots.  If people are using a company’s proprietary services to coordinate and plan illegal, and more often than not, malicious attacks, I believe that it is in that company’s best interest to aid authorities in whatever way possible.

    If a human trafficing/smuggling network was sought to be using BBM to coordinate their actions, I’m pretty sure no one here would find fault with RIM’s decision to help.

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