Judge denies Samsung access to unreleased iPad, iPhone

By on Jun 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Legal June 22, 2011

According to FOSS Patents, a judge in the U.S. District Court in the Northern District of California has ruled that Samsung cannot view Apple’s next-generation iPad and iPhone products. The whole debacle started when Apple began accusing Samsung of creating copycat products — as such, it asked the Korean firm to produce its next-generation devices inside a court room. The court took Apple’s side and Samsung was forced to show Apple the Galaxy S II, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Infuse 4G, and DROID Charge. In an effort to prepare for further legal battles with Apple, Samsung wanted the same access to Apple’s next generation products. For now, that won’t happen. The reasoning behind the judge’s decision appears to be that Samsung had already showed off its products to members of the press and others. Apple, as usual, has kept its products close to the vest.

[Via 9to5 Mac]

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  • Anonymous

    This is not even remotely surprising.

    • Biggles

       Could somebody inform me why Apple is wasting tax dollars on demanding to see products that are already available to the public?  This country needs to start charging steep court fees for corporate litigation to deter needless lawsuits.

      • http://twitter.com/gnomehole The Gnome

        Because Samsung has already released the copy-cat products.  DUh….

      • http://twitter.com/jj_hh1 J Hamburg

        The better question would be why US citizens are wasting US dollars to buy korean copies of US products?!

      • Harhar

        Uh…. The galaxy s 2 rapes the iPhone 4 and as we all know apple just make minor upgrades each year and claim it to be “innovating and radical” and I can already tell that all these high end android devices will still rape the iPhone 5 and the galaxy s 2 is the top android device out right now.

    • sirpaul

      Yeah because the judge is an Apple fanboy.

      • numetheus

        Yup. Standard comment. It’s either … he is a fanboy. Or … he works for steve jobs. It’s in the same vein as … your mamma!! All things said when you clearly have nothing better to say.

      • http://twitter.com/gnomehole The Gnome

        Yea because anything pro Apple is a conspiracy among the morons in this country, and anything negative is a good thing for everyone.

        Give it up guys, get a life.    Apple has ever right in this case going after Samsung.  If you don’t see that you are BLIND… and I mean seriously blind.

      • numetheus

        Most of the Android people on here are brainless snobs that march to anything Android. If it is Apple related, they mindlessly bash it. All drones. Same can be said for a lot of iPhone fanboys though. The funny thing is … lots of people here somehow think they are right and everyone else is wrong. They love Android, so if you happen to love iPhone you must be drinking the kool aid. BUT, if you love Android you are somehow correct. It’s quite pathetic. I love iPhone and Android. I rock my Inspire 4G and think it is far superior. But I also recognize that there are flaws to it that iPhone got right and vice versa. Neither is the end all be all smartphone.

      • http://twitter.com/jj_hh1 J Hamburg

        The best thing still is that many of the Droids here are fighting one of the worlds most innovative companies and throw their money to cheap asien knock offs. And in the end they wonder why the don’t get a job in the US after they left school :) )

      • http://twitter.com/gnomehole The Gnome

        FAIL

  • Bringit

    Android Copy Team trying to get a jump on the next steal job – they’ll have to wait.

    • http://twitter.com/Maxrunner João Rossa

      More like Apple being treated diferently as usual, so now they can have acess to their competitors products but the inverse wont happen, that gives Apple advantage….

      • J. Williams

        Correct

      • Zac Caslin

        You too might want to read this article again.

      • Anonymous

        generally when you reinvent the market and everyone follows you that will happen.

      • http://www.about.me/CalvinLee Calvin Lee

        Joao, Did you attempt to read what the Judge said and her reasoning for it? 

        It isn’t about giving anyone an advantage. It’s the fact that Apple requested for products already announced and launching imminently if not already launched, products that are competing, will compete with the iPhone 4 / iPad 2 (Which also bears resemblence to the iPhone / iPad released to date). The Product that Apple Claims Samsung has copied is up to the iPhone 4 / iPad 2. Thus, the suit does not touch on the next generations iPhones or iPads, therefore there is no need or requirement for Apple to be showing their Next Gen Products.

      • Anonymous

        “Joao, Did you attempt to read what the Judge said and her reasoning for it?”

        Fandroids don’t read.  They just repeat what Google tells them.

      • http://twitter.com/reginaldfelix Reginald Felix

        What part don’t you get? The devices are all ready out on the open. If Samsung did not announce them, apple would have bot been allowed to view the product. And if apple had announce the new iPhone at WWDC then Samsung would would have been allowed to view the device.
        Apple does get advantages, but not in this case. 

      • Anonymous

        Plus, its the legal team that gets to look at Samsungs products, not an engineering team.

      • Anonymous

        You might have a point if Samsung hadn’t made it a point to parade all of the aforementioned products in the press, give all the tech specs, etc. When BGR posted the article about Apple getting access to Samsung’s hardware, I remember being surprised because it seemed like all of it was basically available in stores by that time.

        Apple, on the other hand, will straight up try to ruin your life if you get a hold of their hardware before they’re prepared to release it. See: the clusterfuck between Gizmodo and Apple during the iPhone 4 situation.

      • Guest

        Precisely, I bet the judge is getting a free iphone for him and his family for life.

      • Zac Caslin

        Apple doesn’t have to give out phones for free like Google does.

      • Anonymous

        I find that to be beyond unfair.  It gives Apple the upper hand on future products, features, etc…

      • http://twitter.com/jj_hh1 J Hamburg

        At least you already learned to write! Now start the whole reading thing and you’d be a lot happier. Samsung only had to bring to court what was already public knowledge. Maybe you’d better get an iPhone cause it is easier to handle then a gogooo-phone.

      • Zac Caslin

        How? Every product apple was shown you can buy. Not so with what samsung wants to see.

      • http://twitter.com/jj_hh1 J Hamburg

        Did this ruling say anything about Apple granted access to future Samsung products? I think NOT! All Samsung had to show were products they already showed in public. So cool down and read closely before whining on behalf of the company who got their design from Cupertino and the OS from Mountain View.

    • Know your facts

      Android was in deveolpement far earlier then apples i.o.s was. Also who cares who copies who apple has copied android and so has every other company each other. Smart phone platforms were not created by apple nor android all they did was change it. So in all honesty apple did not come up with the smart phone idea… Know your facts before you speak, smart phones were out since 1991 they were a lil different but alas it was around. The only way apple wins is cuse of their patent portfolio, jobs whines to much that people are stealing “HIS” idea when it was never his to begin with. Funny thing is though you never hear google throw a fit over apple or anyone else taking what they designed, furthermore, technology was ment to be open sourced not closed didnt apple think that same way years ago?…

    • Think for a min

      all of you iphonites i sheep or whatever you call yourselves want to sit there and buy a product that is outsourced from the u.s go ahead i know android maybe as well but at least the companies who make the phones do not make people work 7 days a week more then 20 hours a day with very little pay. Oh but i guess everyone forgot about the news leak awhile back that apple’s factories are like slave shops. Your concious not mine ;)

  • http://twitter.com/rkein87 Rob Kein

    Someone will leave it on a bar stool and we will see them soon enough.

    • J. Williams

      Lol

  • http://www.droiddoes.com/ iNorm

    That sucks for DROID fans. It’s still gonna be 2-3 after each new apple release until we get new Samsung DROIDS.

  • J. Williams

    IPhone and iPad are played out anyway, no one cares. Android will continue to be top dog, for many years to come. Get used to it Apple.

    • Anonymous

      Tell your parents that we are all sorry for their suffering. They have had to stand by such ignorance for many years and thankfully we only have to withstand the comments.

      • J. Williams

        Go away, and grow up please.

      • http://www.facebook.com/applelover Tim Meesseman

        You’re telling him to grow up while you completely ignore the fact that Android has barely made a dent in the iPad market share?

      • J. Williams

        @Tim I’m telling him to grow up because of the name calling and immature childish comments directed to me. I made a comment about this thread, not insulting anyone directly like him. Now please go away, with him.

    • Anonymous

      no one cares huh take a look at the numbers. Android will continue to be top dog in what? Five versions of their os on 300 different phones with 4 different ui’s? Let me explain business 101 to you. They are all in it to make money. Who’s got the most cash that’s who the top dogs are.

    • Zac Caslin

      Is that why they can’t make enough of them?

  • Anonymous

    The Judge must be sporting an iPhone.

  • http://twitter.com/TuckerPeterson Tucker A. Peterson

    I am probably reading this wrong but the judge is siding with Apple because they keep their products under wraps correct?  If that’s the case then how the hell is any competitor supposed to know exactly what an Apple device is going to look like other than patent applications and FCC reports (which are shit to begin with)?

    Is the judge saying ” Samsung….make sure you are not creating devices that look like what could possibly be a future Apple product even though you have no clue what it is going to look like.”?  If that is the case this judge is a lunatic and if they are saying that Apple should be allowed to say what does and doesn’t look like the product they have under wraps and whether or not they are going to sue then he is even more of an idiot.

    • Downloadable

      Not quite– the judge is saying, “based on your past Samsung, you continuously copied existing Apple products.  We’re checking your next batch to see if you stopped or not.”  Future products that haven’t been unveiled don’t matter and would constitute a whole new argument.  Samsung has directly copied Apple, and Apple wants to make sure they stop– what’s the harm in that?

      • http://twitter.com/TuckerPeterson Tucker A. Peterson

        So the comparison of what Apple gets to see vs what Samsung wants to see is Apples (pun intended) and Oranges?  That to me is what makes no sense.  The argument of “close to the vest” makes zero sense if the argument is future products vs. current products.  The judge should be saying I need to see the Apple devices that they claim are being copied by Samsung and I need to see the Samsung devices that are copies of CURRENT Apple products. 

        The whole part about seeing future Apple products should have been thrown out on irrelevance not the “close to the vest” argument. 

    • Anonymous

      From what I have read the products that apple is asking to see are items that have either shipped or have been given to certain developers for testing etc. Samsung is asking to see future un announced products from apple. True story™©®

  • http://twitter.com/Jakenovak Jake Novak

    Seriously?  Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for companies protecting their IP, but when you have one side that gets to see the others by court order, it’s only fair to make the other side play game.  I’m no lawyer, but the whole “they’re more secretive than you are” excuse doesn’t even remotely sound like a legal defense.

    • http://www.section303.com codeyh

      but they’re comparing to the ipad 2 and iphone 4, which are readily available.  not the NEXT gen of devices.

    • Anonymous

      see this is why these blogs suck only one reports this story right Apple doesn’t see Samsungs products. An outside counsel does. Not Apple’s counsel nor Apple see anything that Samsung makes, unless they go out and buy it.

      So don’t get confused by this BS “took Apple’s side and Samsung was forced to show Apple” 

  • Anonymous

    Samsung is so sneaky. Trying to peak at the next iPhone and iPad so they could copy them.

    • Wejgewijgiw

      shut up ugly virgin itoy fanboy

      • Anonymous

        Any chance u can come up with some new material? True story™©®

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR6HpRLyzMY Walter Sobchak

        Any chance YOU can come up with some new material?
        True story™©®

      • Anonymous

        Huh?

  • Anonymous

    ok so the koreans haven’t completely bought US politicians and judges yet. The supreme court gave them that right with citizens united. Soon they’ll have have the same money “invested” in our political and judicial officials.
    it will be interesting to watch.

  • Alvin A. Smith

    And you know Samsung knew they had no chance at this.  The lawyers probably just shrugged and smiled sheepishly as if to say “Had to try, right?”

  • Anonymous

    Judge: No you may not see Apple’s new hardware
    Samsung: Come on judge we need some new ideas for our new tablet and smartphones
    Judge: No now get out of my court room you fandroids

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR6HpRLyzMY Walter Sobchak

      Sounds like you have misplaced aggression.
      True story™®©

  • Big Pat

    Samsung sucks.  They stole LG TV ideas, Fuji camera ideas, LG cell phone (flip phones) ideas, LG appliance ideas, Apple phone/tablet ideas and etc. etc. etc.  F Samsung.

  • Anonymous

    Was anyone actually foolish enough to think there was even a possibility they would be allowed to see the iPhone 5 or iPad 3? If u did then u clearly did not know the facts. Or u r somehow related to papinyc and applesucksfatties. My advice, get sterilized. True story™©®

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR6HpRLyzMY Walter Sobchak

      U weren’t?
      True story ™®©

      • Anonymous

        Huh?

      • Anonymous

        How is it a lie, u know im right. Apple sucks the ipod changed the game for them and that was their last best idea. Everything else has been replicated and duplicated.. We still haven’t seen what the ipad can do. A app here and there isn’t nothing. Ipad = Ipod touch with apps

      • Anonymous

        Yes. U have been trained well by the google propaganda squad. Tactic
        number 9 repeat lies over an over in comments. Good job. True story™©®

    • Anonymous

      We all know what the next iphone will look like: a slim device, possibly bigger screen, a new app and the copied iOS 5!!! Everyone knows that, You know how apple does it. 

      • Anonymous

        Yes i do know how apple does it Apple is the best. Most original,
        innovative and cutting edge tech company on the planet. True story™©®

      • Anonymous

        Wow apple has you drinking the kool-Aid. Most original not since the ipod. Innovative I guess that’s why they steal other companies ideas and polish them as there own and cutting edge yeah right what have they produced that’s even worth buying besides the ipod? The ipad, oh boy.. Ipad = Ipod touch with apps

      • Anonymous

        Everything u have said is a lie. It has been proven so. True story™©®

  • whosaidwhat

    “The reasoning behind the judge’s decision appears to be that Samsung had
    already showed off its products to members of the press and others.”

    So, let me get his straight. The judge wasted tax payers money even though the products Apple wanted to see had already been seen by the “press and others”? Everyone who reads a tech blog saw the requested products months ago but Apple’s lawyers needed a special judgement from a judge to see them in person. Nice.

    • Anonymous

      Outside third party saw the products not Apple or Apple lawyers. So much for bloggers informing people with truthful information.

  • Anonymous

    “The court took Apple’s side and Samsung was forced to show Apple the Galaxy S II, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Infuse 4G, and DROID Charge. In an effort to prepare for further legal battles with Apple, Samsung wanted the same access to Apple’s next generation products.”  
    How to do you write such crap? This site sucks man I am done. The court ruled that outside counsel see’s Sammy’s products, not Apple or the Apple’s lawyers. Sammy wanted to see Apple’s products how is that the same thing? If Sammy said let the same third party see them ok that would be the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    Next version of Android delayed till iPhone5 and iPad3 are announced or released.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the judge is a liberal piece of crap who’s sucking steve jobs’ cock.

    • Anonymous

      Anyone, no matter the merits of a case in this situation, that agrees with Apple is a piece of crap… I agree with you…

  • Anonymous

    Todd – are you the only one working at BGR now?

  • Alexander530

    This was a no-brainer.

  • Anonymous

    The Judge is getting paid by Apple

  • http://twitter.com/gnomehole The Gnome

    Samsung copy cat division might start to see layoffs soon.  Bummer for a company that is now a huge embarrassment.    They can innovate, they just choose not too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICESDVAFCDQZSJ4D5ENCTMHIEQ Lola Montoya

    From what I have read the products that apple is asking to see are items that have either shipped or have been given to certain developers. @Amanda, I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, LiveCent. com

  • Mish16

    Oh who CARES?! Products are forever copying each other. If one design works, then obviously other companies are wanting to follow market trend and try and tweak it to sell some of their own. What a waste of money arguing something that’s bound to happen anyway.

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