Nokia’s downward spiral: Microsoft deal ‘unlikely to be successful,’ analyst says

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Bernstein Research analyst Pierre Ferragu didn’t say that Nokia should go back to making boots in his note to investors on Wednesday, but he came pretty close. Citing Nokia’s inability to adapt in a fast-changing market, Ferragu cut his rating on Nokia stock to under-perform and dropped his price target from $7.33 to $4. “In a fast changing market, Nokia is losing ground very rapidly,” the analyst writes. “The profit warning for the second quarter provided evidence that the next couple of years will prove very challenging, with the gross margin and market share trends of the last 4 quarters continuing, if not accelerating even more. The collaboration with Microsoft now appears to us unlikely to be successful, as Nokia’s brand is losing ground too fast and the window of opportunity for an alternative ecosystem is vanishing rapidly. Even modeling a scenario in which Nokia stabilizes next year leads us to believe that the stock will under-perform over the next twelve months.” Ferragu believes Nokia’s smartphone market share will be cut in half in the second quarter of 2011 compared to the same quarter a year earlier, dropping from 38% to just 19%, and he expects Nokia’s overall cell phone market share to slide from 35% to 30%.

35 Comments
  • ManGeniusReport

    These analysts seem to be McDonald employees. Any uneducated person can “predict” this crap.

    • Anonymous

      But this goes against others who say windows phone will be number two smartphone os because of nokia so he is a bit of a renegade.

      • Anonymous

         you mean paid studies that show the companies who paid for the studies aren’t remotely accurate? say it ain’t so!?
        windows mobile will never make it in top 3 marketshare, period.

  • Anonymous

    You mean a company with half of its revenue coming from feature phones isn’t on the way to the top?  Shocking….

  • Anonymous

    Nokia will be waving to the Titanic in the near future.

    “NOKIA: Life without lifeboats (but, Windows Mobile on-board)”

    • Senor Chang

      Please for the love of whatever-god you believe in… if you think Nokia is going under, just say “nokia is going under, Nokia suxxx”..  that would be 1,000,000,000,000 times better than the nonsensical, humorless garbage that derives from your fingertips.  The 2 people that liked it only like it cause you’re hating on Nokia, not because it contains any form of wit or intelligence.  Jesus christ you suck so bad.

  • Droidman101

    Finally an actually smart analyst.
    Nokia can’t adapt to stuff quickly. Not many people like their form factors for their smartphones and they (while making excellent cameras with their phones) are generally behind in hardware.

    • Anonymous

      Most people’s definition of “smart analyst” equates to “analyst who agrees with my own thinking”.  I suspect this case is no exception ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTRKIQBIY3AGEOG2JMPS3P6HRI Dan

    Nokia isn’t going anywhere and getting WP7 while isn’t ideal (because it’s not Android) it is much better than S^3, no matter how many improvements they made on Anna.  I am personally predicting that Nokia will sell between 35 & 55 million WP7 smart phones in 2012.  Not because they have WP7 but because it is Nokia.  

    It’s a shame that most American’s haven’t been able to see how good high-end Nokia devices are.

    • http://twitter.com/Aleis Jayrock

      screw yall. we have high end devices. nokia is corny to us. they are un-appealing…uh…boring. not interesting. nothing to get excited about…wack!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTRKIQBIY3AGEOG2JMPS3P6HRI Dan

        Ahh the classic American ghetto rhetoric.  How is your educational system doing again or how about your economy?  BMW’s & Audi’s are boring too…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000722296108 Herman Guerra

      Make up your mind.  You praise WP7 and bash symbian3 + future improvements and then you turn around and praise high-end Nokias….uhh High-end Nokias have symbian3 in ‘em

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTRKIQBIY3AGEOG2JMPS3P6HRI Dan

        I’m sorry you are unable to differentiate the difference between a hardware platform and the OS it runs on. I’m part of the Symbia Alliance, I have been running Maemo6 (Harmattan) for nearly 5 months now on my N900 and I have been a strong supporter/developer of Maemo & Symbian.  But it’s a dead end.  They attempted Meego which was doomed from start and now this is what they have.

        Thankfully WP7 (with Mango) is an acceptable OS alternative to iOS & Android.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTRKIQBIY3AGEOG2JMPS3P6HRI Dan

        I’m sorry you are unable to differentiate the difference between a hardware platform and the OS it runs on. I’m part of the Symbia Alliance, I have been running Maemo6 (Harmattan) for nearly 5 months now on my N900 and I have been a strong supporter/developer of Maemo & Symbian.  But it’s a dead end.  They attempted Meego which was doomed from start and now this is what they have.

        Thankfully WP7 (with Mango) is an acceptable OS alternative to iOS & Android.

  • Anonymous

    Microsoft has the cheese touch. 

    • Anonymous

      Rare R.I.P…. Danger R.I.P…. Next up Nokia! Only difference is Nokia killed themselves.. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTRKIQBIY3AGEOG2JMPS3P6HRI Dan

        What do two small companies have to do with the largest cell phone engineering company in the world?  It’s like comparing Timex to GE.  And just for the record both Rare & Danger were purchased by Microsoft.  

      • Anonymous

        Can you read? You acknowledged that Rare and Danger were bought up by MS right? What happened to them.. After being industry leaders lauded for innovation MS got involved and made them irrelevant.. I can tell you tried to make a witty response but next time keep your half baked jokes to yourself

  • Droidfan

    Take this article with the report that Elsop himself is saying that Android and iOS are ripping Nokia a new one in Europe and Asia (Nokia’s largest markets), and maybe this guy isn’t such a renegade.  Nokia tied their future to MS’s WP7 star.  And the most telling thing about WP7 is that the first full quarter of sales showed more people buying Mobile Phone 6′s than WP7′s. And not many of either of them.  Windows may well tough the mobile wars out.  The question is, can Nokia last that long?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTRKIQBIY3AGEOG2JMPS3P6HRI Dan

      Apple is actually doing quite poorly in Europe so I’m not sure where you are getting your information.  My information is that S^3 & Android are selling on par with each other in Europe with S^3 outselling Android/iOS by a factor of 4 in India & Brasil.  The Brasillian market is 600 million strong & the Indian market is over 1billion.

  • http://twitter.com/ChazClout ChazClout

    What’s stopping Nokia moving to pastures greener if the Windows Phone deal doesn’t pull them out of their rut (be it Android, Meego or another Smartphone OS of the future)?

    Whilst things look a little bleak at the moment, we still haven’t seen what they’ll bring with WP7. WP7 doesn’t interest me too much at the moment, the thought of Nokia hardware with a modern OS certainly has my ears pricked.

    • Anonymous

      Once you make a strategic mistake, there’s no reset, no mulligan, no recovering.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ceeaser28 ian carr

    naw I disagree, Nokia alone still shipped 455million smartphones running symbian last Q. Though they will continue to slide, with adobting WP7 as their main OS, they will continue to be successful. Not here in the states, atleast not at first, but over seas in other countrys. Nokia is a brand name overseas like Apple is in the states, and this only helps Microsoft as well reach more channels then a Google or Apple can. The reason why other analyst say WP7 with be the #2 if not #1 OS by 2014.

    • Anonymous

      Once the fall begins, it is swift. 

    • Anonymous

      No sir 455 million feature phones. Or as others call them, dumb phones. The kind that they make 1 buck or so on each. High volume low margin is a very finicky business. Not much room for error. The companies fall from 2000 to now tells all.

  • Anonymous

    Hopping in the sack with Ballmer = the last desperate act of a dying man.

    • Kevin1983

      ha ha, I think you mean suicide, sweaty, sweaty suicide.

  • Anonymous

    Hopping in the sack with Ballmer = the last desperate act of a dying man.

  • Prof. Peabody

    This seems destined to fail to me.  MS already has Nokia building their phones, the only reason to *buy* them is if they are finally switching to Apple’s business model and going to try and build the whole widget. 

    The trouble with that is, all their hardware partners will leave them and move to Android and then MS stands alone (and lives or dies), by the success of the Nokia/MS phone.  Remember too, these are the same hardware partners MS relies on to sell Windows computers.  

    I predict that about half-way through this increasingly bold (and increasingly expensive), series of moves by Balmer, that he will be replaced, and then the whole house of cards will come crashing down.  Then MS “re-organises” in traditional fashion, becomes an “also ran” in the phone business and meekly goes back to pushing “Windows 10″ (Windows X?”) for the rest of it’s years. 

    • dsds

      Meekly pushing Windows? Lmfao… Not to mention they happen to be 80-90% market share of operating systems…

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand. I thought MeeGo was supposed to be there next OS?  Whats taking so long? I think these companies need better QA testers or something. I swear i never understand how have of these new phones make it to the market

  • Scott H

    I called this the day the announcement was made.  It’s not that a Nokia WinPho marriage couldn’t have worked, but they utterly mismanaged it.  You NEVER EoL an ecosystem before you can produce a product for the next one.  If they’s said they had a deal with Microsoft and that they would be producing WinPho phones next year that would have been one thing.  Saying you are going to kill the OS you currently have in the market (a year before you can get the new one out) is suicide.  Elop is apparently completely inept.

  • Vivek menon

    I DO NOT understand why NOKIA has become so dump in last 3 years !! What is wrong with them. They were the best in Mobile, messaging, Camera, and lot other things and especially bringing a new model to market; they need only few minutes for that. I admit that they couldn’t capitalize on their Ovi store. Ofcourse open is always the king in pace. But For them to bring a touch screen and install android 2.3. Is that a big deal. Nokia has made dual sim fones and dual tech(cdma and GSM) fones overnight. Just make a fone with all hardware features of N95 and Install android. Trust me It will be the most hottest the world mobile market…!! Nokia thinks that they have lost its ground. Thats bulls**t. Because Nokia has got amazing battery life and very efficient usage of power in their machine at par with apple. None others has it. They have amazing camera features. To come up with a high quality led touch screen is more like a street walk for nokia. and Moreover which NO One has – the ability to make Rigid fones that too in most cheap rate. I dont know what is stopping them. They still have room to come with a Tablet atleast, with Android 3. Coz only iPad is there to buy. Playbook, Xoom sucks and Transformer is not available to buy.  the questing is WHAT IS STOPPING NOKIA !! THE NEW CEO????

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YSWYHDGV6LSEDI6HNCAGUKJZQQ Jaime Booth

    I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, MadCent. com

    • Idiotaboveme

      Hi Jaime Booth, thanks so much for your stupid ad!

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