‘PC market is in its twilight,’ says former Apple exec

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In a “Monday Note” blog post that questioned Intel’s new 3D transistors and the company’s lack of presence in the mobile space, former Apple executive Jean-Louis Gassee took some stabs at the chip maker and stated that the PC market is dying. “Now that the PC market is in its twilight, with mobile devices proliferating and stealing growth from the PC, surely Intel has to get into the race,” Gassee argued, pointing out that every time Intel launched a new low-power processor for mobile devices, ARM had a better one up its sleeves. Intel has its Atom processor, designed for mobile use, but it’s been primarily placed in Windows tablets and netbooks instead of in smartphones. “For the past four years Intel has told us we’d see x86 mobile devices Real Soon Now,” Gasse wrote. “The company developed its own mobile version of Linux, MobLin, and they made a big deal of joining forces with Nokia’s Maemo to create MeeGo. But Nokia’s new CEO, Stephen Elop, kicked Meego to the [curb], wisely decided to focus on one software platform, his ex-employer’s Windows Phone 7.” Gassee also took a moment to address rumors that Apple will ditch Intel for ARM-based processors in 2013, and argued that “there’s no roadmap for ARM chips to beat Intel in computationally intensive areas,” such as CAD, Photoshop, and FinalCut, today, but that multicore ARM chips could power mid-range Apple laptops in the future.

[Via CNET]

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  • Phed_Up

    Yeah, we have heard that “PC is dying out”, “going away”, etc. crap for years!

    MAC PC’s? Yep, I can see them in their “twilight”, cause no one should have bought one of those jokes in the first place! :-)

    Course, this moron is ex-CrApple, so the Faithful tards will start putting their PC’s out on the curb tonight, cause if someone from CrApple says it….it MUST be so!

    hee hee hee

  • Anonymous

    How is he going to shit on PCs, then mention CAD, Photoshop, and Final Cut. Mac’s = PC’s too. I’d hate to try and earn a living using a mobile version of these programs full time.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get this at all. Why would tablets or smartphones take away from the Desktop market? They will take away from the netbook/laptop market.

    The activities that take place on a desktop cannot be replicated on a tablet. But the experience given by laptops and netbooks can be easily duplicated into tablet form factor or even the smartphone factor.

    • Anonymous

      My I7 does 100 gflops. My Captivate does 22 mflops.

      I think ARM has quite a ways to go. They are just lucky your average person doesn’t need 100 gflops of processing power to browse Facebook.

      • Anonymous

        EXACTLY!

        Things done on laptops/netbooks:
        facebook
        youtube
        look at pictures
        type word documents
        watch videos
        listen to music

        Things done on Desktops:
        Video editing
        3D Modeling
        Intensive Design
        Convert Videos
        Store/backup information
        Data Manipulation
        Intensive Multi-tasking (multiple monitors)
        Record/watch TV
        (and all the things you can do on a laptop/netbook)

        Now I wonder which market will suffer from tablets and smartphones??

        I think the answer is obvious.

      • AnonGuy

        You forgot software development for desktops…

  • Anonymous

    Intel was in the mobile space, they got out to concentate on their core business in light of AMD catching and surpassing them from a technology standpoint. Though getting out of mobile wasn’t the best idea it did probably atleast help them solidify their spot as the top x86 chip maker. Intel now plans on re-entering the mobile chip game and I am sure that it won’t take them long to flex their R&D muscle and become one of the main chip makers for smartphones and tablets.

    • Anonymous

      I think the last thing arm chipmakers want is Intel to figure out the whole deep sleep thing because as soon as they do, they are in a world of hurt.

    • Anonymous

      Selling XScale to Marvell and exiting ARM sub-licensing may be one of Intel’s worse strategic mistakes in embedded/mobile.

      Right up there with AMD selling its Imageon division to Qualcomm (and TV to Broadcom) and then getting shut out of mobile graphics and HTPC video (DirecTV, Dish, TiVo, etc).

  • Jah

    yay another old white guy hear to tell us what is going to happen…woohoo I’m throwing my PC out tonight.

    • Anonymous

      What exactly, does being “white” have to do with this?

      • Anonymous

        Being white doesn’t have anything to do with it, but let’s be real: when is the last time you remember hearing a major tech announcement from a black guy?

        Not to sidetrack anything, but just to make the observation.

      • Booboo44

        Maybe not “black” but plenty of “brown”! :) Come on, there’s a huge amount of development and product management and CEOs that are “not white”. Now, move on…

  • http://www.cyber-punk.cz.cc/ ShadowRunner

    Yes PC’s may be going the way of the dino among consumers but among creators it aint gonna happen.

    for consuming data (checking e-mail, browsing, etc etc) tablets do a better job, Making a website , editing music or video you’d be screwed depending on a tablet.

  • jay

    I use tablets! I sell tablets! I would never evn consider trading in my laptop pc for a tablet!

  • Bullet Tooth Tony

    laptops are perhaps a dying breed… replaced by devices that are even more mobile… but the desktop will be here for a long time to come…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6IVVO35C6P5XO5ATVSLKYEWAXE David

    His teeth look rotten from drinking too much of the Apple Kool-Aid

  • Shanghai Dan

    PCs are already in their twilight at Apple – Mac sales account for less than 25% of Apple’s revenue. Apple is no longer a PC company, they’re an entertainment company that happens to have a small computer division attached to it.

    • Michael Scrip

      With 50% of their revenue coming from the iPhone… I’d say Apple is a cell phone manufacturer, who happens to also sell computers.
      :)

  • Jde Rss

    THis dude should know, it looks like he is in his twilight as well

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    Even though it is in twilight, smartphones are ruling!!..

  • DigitalHomeBoy

    I wonder if J-L Gassee knows that technically “twilight” refers to midnight, thus making the context out of place – “Now that the PC market is in its “midnight…”, I guess we can expect other quotes like “Macs will “eclipse” the PC market” from the former one-sided ex-employee.

  • http://www.glenhoperidge.com.au iBernie

    Maybe there’s a good reason that he’s a “Former Apple Exec”?
    Maybe there’s a good reason Apple didn’t perform well when he was on board?

    Hmmm, I love my iPad. But I love my 8 core Mac Pro with 30 inch screen even more.

  • Anonymous

    Gonna be a while before the US administration, military and all the insurance companies give up their cheap Windows desktop PCs in cubicles and give all their employees iPads.

    Once more CrApple is believing its own BS hype.

    • Anonymous

      Ipads will NEVER be a work device. The evolution of the atrix may be though.

  • Anonymous

    This guy is right! Now that I can hook my smartphone up to my 24 inch monitor and run games at the native 1920×1080 resolution with graphic opti– what? Can’t do that yet? Can’t come even close? Won’t be able to do that for a while?

    Last I checked, the iPad can’t match a desktop in CAD work. The Xoom doesn’t have the horsepower for major Photoshop work. I’m sure this guy thinks PC gaming is going to die out any day now, too.

  • KCRic

    Yup, those corporations are just throwing PC’s out the window like Enron shredded paper.

    GTFO, some of these Apple guys make the most asinine, conceded, un-informed, and unintelligent comments ever.

    • Booboo44

      Don’t insult him… he’s not conceded, just stupid. Can’t help it!

  • Anonymous

    It’s all about the workplace. The “PC” will always be #1 as long as there is not a workplace alternative. Atrixes for everyone?

  • Bringit

    Wow this guy is smart! Next he’ll tell us the fax machine is on it’s way out.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I can just see tons of people doing Photoshop and video editing using their fingers on an iPad.

    The PC market has surely matured. It is no longer expanding as it did for several decades. But neither is it contracting. Tablets have taken market share from netbooks, but not from laptops or desktops and they won’t for the foreseeable future. Even the iPad requires a real computer to activate it.

    Gasse mistakes growth rate for market size. That’s the same mistake that gave rise to the dot com bubble.

  • http://www.facebook.com/satya.chowdary99 Satya Chowdary

    Well apple!!! keep praying you dumb customers stay dumb, if they get any techie or intelligent they will go with Android( for phones or tablets) and Windows (for pc) which cost half of what apple’s products and whose funtionality ranges anywhere between 100 to 1000 times more than yours….

  • Anonymous

    Alright I’m prepared to get bashed for this but something that hasn’t been mentioned: PC Gaming.

    I’m currently building a tower in anticipation of the release of Diablo 3, and look forward to playing games like battlefield 3 on it rather than my xbox. I know this goes against the trends of the past… I don’t know 15 years? But I believe due to Sony and Microsoft not planning on releasing new consoles any time soon, there should be a rise in PC gaming over the next year or so. Xbox 360 came out six years ago, games are capable of so much more than these consoles are allowing, I know that has always been the argument for PC gaming but I think with the ability to have a solid system for under $1000 it just makes sense for gamers currently in the market for a new computer like myself to go with a desktop that will allow me to do all the things any other computer can do and have an improved gaming machine as well.

    I also believe that the growth of the smartphone actually enhances my desire for a solid desktop; knowing that I will be getting a powerful new smartphone this summer makes me feel less pressured to go with a laptop or tablet for mobility purposes

  • katiepea

    i don’t think this is in any way remotely true, in fact what i think it really is is old people failing to realize that the computing market can expand without shrinking in one area, just because you may have 2 mobile phones, a tablet, and ipod, doesn’t mean you don’t want a PC in fact i don’t know a single person that has dropped their PC in favor of any of these devices. PC will live forever, and if it’s in apples future to behave like it won’t then adios apple, as i see it they’ve been consistently miscalculating the future of computing for several years now, refusing to change iOS, gearing their desktop OS to it’s mobile…i dunno, apple has this all wrong.

  • Any

    man, is no one going to make BeOS joke here. This is the same guy that let 400+ million pass over his head from Apple when they needed an Os, instead they bought Next which became OsX. this french guy is a joke.

  • Matt

    Is there a summer camp out in Silicon Valley somewhere that grooms all of these formerly-relevant tech executives to be ass backward “analysts” when they leave their real jobs?
    Slowing growth != imminent deathGrowing new market != death of somewhat similar existing market
    Tablets very well may kill netbooks eventually since they fill very similar roles and will probably take a bit out of laptop sales since many people that buy laptops would be just as happy with a tablet. But tablets won’t totally kill PC’s because they fulfill different needs.

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