Samsung denies Galaxy Tab 10.1 overhaul, says tablet will ship as scheduled

Can you foretell the future???? Since neither the iPad 2 nor the tab are out yet. . . your statement about the market has no merit whatsoever. As with the iPhone, Android will dominate quickly.

The iphone is essentially dead at this point. It has gone the way of the razr as just a gimmick. Live widgets and wallpapers FTW!

No … But it’s called analyzing trends. It’s something every company does. Looking at the demographic who will buy these tablets the most (hint … it’s not tech geeks), they will purchase iPad 2 over this for five reasons. Size (none of them come close to how thin iPad 2 is), brand recognition, battery life, iOS, available applications. If you think people will buy the Android tablets just for specs and virtue of it being an Android OS, you are highly mistaken. The mass consumer is demographic, and for the most part they aren’t tech geeks. They don’t care about specs and know nothing about computing. They just want a tablet they can use, and brand recognition and marketing will hook them. Am I predicting the future? Kind of. Understanding the market and anyzing trends is as close as you can come. It’s like weather forecasters. If you don’t believe me, keep these words in your mind for a few months. When you find I am right, imagine me in your head saying … “told you so!”

So sales means a better product? Explain that logic to my Ford and Chevy friends as Toyota is having all these recalls yet sold the most cars.

Thats funny both for and chevy outsell toyota in the U.S.

ipad2 equals refreshed original ipad. everyone knows, even the apple fan boys that the ipad2 isnt what the ipad three will be. its very lackluster.

And the masses won’t care. It’s just tech geeks on tech blogs like this who will care. We are a very small percentage. I’m willing to bet iPad 2 will outperform the tablets coming out.

Whaaaaaaat!! This is coming from you. Lol, I do agree I wish more androids fans would admit this. Just so u know there nothing wrong being a fanboy, it’s being a extremist is the problem. But yea specs aren’t everything, it’s the total package

Yeah it’s nothing wrong with supporting a specific brand or company. But when you let logic leave you and nonsense takes over everything you say based on your hatred for one company, that’s when it’s too much.

android is essentially dead at this point with the android market full of malicious and pirated apps. That is the reason Nexflix refuses to come to the android market citing lack of security.

The android market is a scary place to shop. criminals put their malicious apps in the android market because there is no approval process.

lol, can you imagine an EVP of Boeing saying just before pax get on the new 787 “we will have to improve the wings that are inadequate”

Oh, ok…clearly I misunderstood his language about replacing “inadequate parts” (his words, not mine). Clearly he was talking about something else entirely, like pizza…or coral reefs.

clearly!

LOL- but apparently the EVP doesnt think there are any since the device is inadequate.

Because thickness equals smooth. Because people love lower real time battery life.

Saying you compete with the “same GB models” is meaningless when the “same GB models” don’t include the most successful model. The iPad average selling price last quarter was $600, meaning the $499 model outsold all of the 3G models and the 64 Gb wi-fi only combined. Neither the 10.1 Galaxy Tab nor the Xoom compete with the $499 model. Therefore, they don’t compete.

wtf ever… lol.

By this time next year when all of the news reports show how Android tablets have dominated the tablet market just as android phones have… we’ll see the average price is the same.

Why? because unlike apple, Android makers will offer sales and prices will be lower than any iPad through deals with carriers for 3G models that iPad won’t see.

Kinda like how after 1month on the market, I was able to secure two Samsung Fascinates for FREE from Best Buy.

You won’t even get that with a 2yr old iProduct. Apple just doesn’t allow it.

So, argueing on launch price is just pointless as 2-3 months in, the Xooms and GTabs will have far more competition from other Android makers and will offer sales. This is why I’ll pick up a tablet around Xmas.

I’ll get a FAR better Android tablet for like $200, from a name brand manufacturer too.

also, of course the lower priced iPad sells more, there is no other difference than GB.

the Xoom and GTab have better cameras, flash, better connection choices, better RAM, among other features….

Simply worth more.

Android set a precedent with heavily discounted, BOGO, and subsidized phones. The tablets, regardless of specs, are going to have to follow suit. Of course the try Android fans that do very awesome and amazing things with the Android OS will buy these devices up like water. But it’s all about market share. Apple has dominated the tablet market. Only way Android will do so is to undercut Apple’s price.

Not necessarily. Honeycomb makes a lot more sense on a tablet than iOS. iPhone started out on top too. But, at some point, a combination of functionality and accessible can trump price. You don’t get to #1 like android just by being cheap, this is why brand names exist. You have to have clout, and android has earned it.

Let us all be a little honest here. If someone is going to buy an iPad with iOS on board who are they going to buy it from?

If someone is going to buy a honeycomb tablet who are they going to buy it from?

Apple has no one to worry about in regards to a “competing” product. They have no need to change their price unless the honeycomb tablets take off. Flip that coin and all of the OHA members have to compete with each other to gain each sale of a honeycomb tablet. The only way to really compete is by price. It is a race to the bottom with zero chance of survival. Their margins have to already be razor thin. If they have to resort to cutting prices they will begin to lose money on each sale in a market that is very new and very very small.

Be a fan of what you like but at least be honest to the business side of things.

I guess that’s why all the Android handset makers are having the highest profits they’ve ever had. . . Apple fans have been running that argument up the flag poll for years. All because Steve Jobs wants boutique priced items. News flash, Apple has the highest markup on hardware. . . by a long shot. Normal people know better than to pay that exorbitant of a markup. And hardware manufacturers will do well with Android and have good prices.

It is kinda funny. Just goes to show that Apple has a nailed down everything from supplier contracts, manufacturing, and of course the every impressive Apple Hype machine.

Android tablets are nice… but they will never sell volumes like the iPad unless they are dirt cheap.

You clearly haven’t bothered to see what prices are out there. You can pick up a tablet similar to the first iPad for $200 to $300 easily.

These current “high priced honeycomb” tablets are top of the line, not even the iPad 2 comes close to the hardware. . . so get a clue about costs instead of spewing Steve’s regurgitation.

Really, can you provide a link to a $200 tablet with exactly equal or better specifications (both hardware and apps) to the iPad, for $200. I’d LOVE to see that.

So, please support your position with evidence.

…the silence is deafening…

Ha, now you’re making things up. Show us a couple of tablets similar to the iPad 1 for $200-$300. Since this is “easily” done, show two or three models that are available now.

1. He said similar, not exact or equal.
2. Similar is probably used as they will all be 7″ vs 10″.
3. While they have a lower total app count (as Android does vs iOS) the hardware and OS are very much the same, i.e. similar.
4. Just use Google for your examples and quit being a dbag. There are many lower brand names of Android 2.x based tablets for 7″ starting around $200.. at least that was the case during xmas.

For ‘examples’ of these “similar” tablets, I went to Google. Searched “Android Tablet” and clicked the “Shopping” option on the left. The first paged showed well over a dozen android based tablets that could easily be considered “similar” to iPad1 with a price range of $130 to $400.

Ok, so give a tablet brand and price that has bascially equivalent specs (screen size, resolution, processor, battery life, streaming capability, and app number) as the iPad. I’m really curious as I cant find one and as it sounds from you, there are a dozen or more.

@DigDug2010… for someone with such an awesome screen name, you fuckin’ kill me.

1. Not going to include app count as that is not that important when both have 100′s of thousands of apps. Yes, iOS has more, but realistically you can get whatever you want from which ever. However, I can’t wait for this year to pass and Android to be above iOS in pure app count just so people like you will STFU about it.

2. Keep in mind, this is only to find tablets $200-$300 that are “similar” to the first iPad. This means there can be a difference here or there, just mostly the same.

3. iPad’s other specs: 9.7″ screen, 1GHz CPU, 16 to 32GB flash memory, no cameras, 256MB RAM, 1024×768 resolution, single proprietary connection.

** It won’t let me post a link. All of this were found on the first page of Amazon by searching “android tablet” **

4. **Very first result** Superpad 10.2″ ($199): 10.2″ screen, 1GHz CPU, 2GB internal (SD card slot up to 32GB), front camera (no spec detailed), 256MB Ram, 1024×600 resolution, Ports: 2 x USB 2.0 AND 2 x MicroSD Slots AND Mini HDMI AND RJ45 Ethernet (oohh wired or wireless). CLEARLY this is all I need to verify that it is “similar” to the first iPad and is actually only $200. Even if you add in a 32GB SD card, you’re still well under the $300 threshhold. Hell, this actually has a few better features with the camera and standard connections. But, its screen is definitely inferior.
5. **Still on first page** Zenithink 10″ ($199): 10″ screen, 1.2 GHz CPU, 2GB internal (SD card slot up to 32GB), no camera, 256MB Ram, 1024×600 resolution, 3 x USB and a SD Card slot, wifi only

7-n. Several 7″ models with similar features, but again a lower quality screen. All $130 to $199.

I stopped here as it was taking longer to type this up than find results to prove you wrong.

how many apps does xoom currently have available?

lol who care about that seriously shut the fuck up punk ass bitch

Because mobile devices rely on apps as a core of their functionality; and SuperChunk said, and let me quote, “Xoom and GTab10.1 match and exceed anything in iPad2…”

So, I happen to be curious how many apps are available on the Xoom and iPad; presumably (based on the above), Xoom must have as many apps or more as iPad.

The apps on android scale to the newer build. It did not start over. Only thing is now a dev can build new views that take advantage of the larger screen.

This is in no way different than when iPad launched with its new larger screen. Older iOS apps could load as is or be modified to scale to a larger screen better.

But you said Xoom and GTab “match and exceed ‘anything’ [emphasis added] in iPad2…” Certainly app content has to be included in the term “anything.”

So which is it…do both Xoom and GTab as many apps as iPad2 will on March 11 (i.e., this Friday), or not?

I just want to know if your very broad statement is accurate or not.

So you’re real point is that iOS has more apps than Android… nothing tablet specific.

Which is just a stupid argument considering any app a person wants will be available on either device. Maybe not the same dev, but if you search, you can find it.

Also, hows your flash pages?

… and I was obviously talking about hardware.

I wasnt making an argument of any type. I was just hoping you could provide support (evidence) for your argument that the Xoom and GTab “match and exceed ‘anything’ in iPad2.”

It’s a simple yes or no issue: Do both the Xoom and GTab “match and/or exceed” the # of apps available for iPad2, per your position, or not?

A simple yes or no will suffice. So, can you support your broad statement?

That’s it. . . go with the app argument because Apple has no other advantage at this point. Honeycomb wipes the floor with iOS–that overblown iPod touch OS or should we just call it what it is, an app launcher and not even a real OS.

However, let’s remember that Steve jobs released the iPhone and told devs to use the web as the platform. Well, Honeycomb with the full browser takes advantage of that so out of the box it has thousands of web apps–you know those little things like Google dos, Zoho, Office Live, web email, tons of games, etc. . . and PC/console games are being ported for Tegra 2 because it can handle it with the added GPU & RAM, but the iPad 2 can’t. And as other’s have pointed out, Android is designed intelligently to handle app scaling properly. . . Apple apparently can’t figure that out. So anything designed according to Android 1.6 SDK will be fine for tablets, and devs can go further with fragments. . . in other words, Honeycomb has left iOS in the dust!

Again, you have to read (much) more carefully. I wasn’t making an argument of any type. I asked a simple question since he said Xoom and GTab match or exceed “anything” in iPad. So I’ll try one more time and keep is as easy as possible..

Do Xoom and GTab have as many total apps as iPad? Yes or No (please circle one).

You haven’t played with a xoom have you?
Apps scale perfectly. It isn’t like iPhone and ipad fragmentation where an app is shown in 1/4 of the space and you hit a 2x button to get a terribly pixelated app in half the window.

No, I havent played with a xoom or an iPad (ir a Gtab for that matter).

I was just trying to verify (by someone, anyone) if Xoom and GTab have as many apps as the iPad, as claimed by SuperChunk. But he got real silent and I guess cannot answer my question and support his statement.

I just think if people are going to make statements of fact, they should be able to back them up.

I never claimed that had equal total count of apps. I was comparing hardware to hardware. You’re just a dbag who is trying to be coy by saying “oh what about the apps!!!111eleven”.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck is what i want to say everytime some isheep references apps. you need more apps because without apps you couldnt do shit with your ios phone,mp3 player,or tablet. android has made great headway and will continue to do so in the future as far as apps go, but the truth of the matter is if you took the apps away and compared the functionality of the phones, you would find that Android out performs ios on any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Superchunk, your exact words, and I quote, were: “Xoom and GTab10.1 match and exceed *anything* in iPad2..”

You did not limit your parameters to hardware (specifically, you used the term ‘anything’), and clearly apps are crucial to any tablet’s ecosystem. So, again, I ask for like the 5th time, do Xoom and GTab “match and exceed” iPad2 in the number of available apps, a simple yes or no?

By the end of the year sales will prove which product(s) consumers want.

yep… just like the smart phone market….. Android.

It called market share. Android tablets will do the same as they did with phones. Multiple choices, carriers and manufacturers. The app community knows this and knows that tablets are largely a luxury item usually attached with disposable incomes. And that is where the money is, disposable incomes.

i guess the App community really doesn’t know, cuz recent stats show iTunes AppStore generating 90+% of all app store revenue. Android’s market share and android’s app sales are clearly poorly correlated.

BOGO offers are through vendors, not manufacturers. If Apple allowed it, Verizon and AT&T would be pitching out iphone bogo offers like candy, but contractual agreements get in the way of that. Still, you haven’t argued against me…Android handsets are more popular (e.g., sell more) than iPhones….The android tablet market is still very young, and I give it 18 months before it controls the most market share. Yes, they WILL saturate the market, and that’s not a bad thing. Doesn’t matter if you win the race with a cheaper car, you’ve still won the race.

Apples growth in iTunes has slowed dramatically over the last year. Maybe this year we will se iTunes jailbroken. I am one of those 200 mil and haven’t purchased anything in iTunes for the last two years. Sure I am nit the only one that likes to listen to their music and watch videos however they want.

Take a couple business courses at ITT Tech or something. Don’t worry you’ll catch up.

So you are bragging about you ITT certificate? Or are you suggesting that a few courses at ITT would be equivalent to your peak of current education? Please explain.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. But, I would be bitter too if I got rejected from unaccredited schools.

The new douchebag reign has a little penis and needs his iPhone to look smaller so his man vag will look bigger. Plus he owns two shares in apple. So he/she is always concerned about what and how people feel about apple vs Android.

That’s exactly what I’m wondering. My first guess is that they want to get rid of the inventory to move people along, so it makes sense for the iPad 1 I guess. But, making it a competitive point for their NEW product to have a cheaper price than the others is a very different direction for Apple, to say the least.

That’s because “real users” are not very smart. We Goofans (aka Apple Haters) know that it requires an advanced intellectual capacity to deal with Android and that’s the way we like it. We don’t want these “simpletons” that are Apple fanboys on our side of the fence.