Verizon Wireless announcing 4G LTE roll-out December 1st

By on Nov 30, 2010 at 8:54 AM
Breaking November 30, 2010

Verizon has just announced that they will be holding a news conference on December 1st to detail the launch of its next-generation, 4G, LTE network. With plans to go-live in “38 metropolitan areas, covering more than 110 millon people” before the end of the year, this would be the world’s largest LTE deployment. While the network is set to go live before 2011, customers will have to wait until early next year for LTE-compatible handsets to start making the rounds. Data products like USB data sticks and Mi-Fi-type devices should be available reasonably soon, however. Now, where’s that HTC Incredible HD?

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  • Justin Carone

    Verizon is shooting a commercial outside of my apartment in Philadelphia tomorrow morning. I am hoping it is an LTE commercial and they will be officially announcing Philly’s inclusion in the 38 city LTE rollout.

    • Anonymous

      It’s about time you guys got something over 2MB. Roll out the LTE @ 5-6MB down while I watch my 3G go to 21. Pretty comical if you think about it.

      • Anonymous

        First off, you’re off on LTE Speeds. I get 8-10 on Sprint. From the tests, I’m figuring Verizon will get that, or more. I love it that you cite HSPA+ theoretical speeds, but your guess of an average speed of LTE. You will never reach a theoretical max, not even in the best of conditions. Lastly, fast is fast. Once you get over 4 Mbit down, arguing over speed is silly. You will not be able to tell the difference. If only we had a few less people that have such small fanboy brains…

      • Anonymous

        First off Sprint doesn’t have LTE. As you know they have Gaymax. Second, just like you said and I quote you “theoretical” and “you’re guessing” neither have carry any solid facts. Wimax isn’t hard to get that speed on. There are a few hundred phones in any given area using the network. Im just east of San Francisco where all phones are 3G capable and there are millions of just iPhones on the network.

      • Petas

        Pewter, quit trolling and spamming that shit on every post nobody cares.

      • Anonymous

        Gaymax? What are you, 12? I am very aware that Sprint uses wimax. I couldn’t make sense out of the rest of your post. Theoretical speed of hspa+ is 21. Nobody will ever see that until they upgrade it further. Then it will have a new theoretical speed that won’t be reached. What does iphone have to do with any of this? It is not even hspa+ capable. For that matter, att has zero phones that are hspa+.

  • Anonymous

    OMG 8G LTE IPHONE!!??!!??

    god I hope not

  • Anonymous

    Do you think pricing will be reasonable?

    • Donny

      In short, no. Thankfully I’m locked in their unlimited 3G with no caps. I hit 8GB last month. Not on purpose, but I work in a lab half the day and need music…and my droid x’s music player has been F-ed since the 2.2 update and I am forced to use pandora and lastfm…a lot.

      • mondeeezy

        How are you locked in? Isn’t that price based off your current phone and plan? I’m guessing that if you upgrade to an LTE phone, you’re gonna have to pay the new LTE data pricing.

  • Asdasd sg

    The current generation of mobile telecommunication networks are collectively known as 3G (for “third generation”). Although LTE is often marketed as 4G, first-release LTE does not fully comply with the IMT Advanced 4G requirements. The pre-4G standard is a step toward LTE Advanced, a 4th generation standard (4G)[2] of radio technologies designed to increase the capacity and speed of mobile telephone networks. LTE Advanced is backwards compatible with LTE and uses the same frequency bands, while LTE is not backwards compatible with 3G systems… so is it pre-4g or 4g?

    • RealDeal

      Thanks for educating us, it’s not like 10 people post this ever single freaking time there is a article on BGR about LTE.

    • Tee

      To answer your question, LTE is 4G – as in… it’s the 4th generation of technology being deployed… kinda like how the iPhone 4 is the 4th iPhone released…. or my iPod 5G is the 5th generation iPod released. It isn’t IMT-Advanced 4G data speed… it doesn’t need to be. It’s a whole different 4th generation.

      It’s kinda funny how a year ago when Sprint started this shit, everyone downranked me when I explained how we should use the term carefully… and now a few months ago, Boy Genius wrote an article on it… and now everybody is an expert in the other direction. Yet, they’re still wrong and only see it in a very narrow view.

      • serpentor

        I would contest the iPhone 4 is not the 4th Generation. Everyone counts the 3GS as the 3rd gen, but it was more a speed spec bump than a real next gen. Next gen must always be accompanied by a new hardware design. It’s an unwritten rule.

      • http://twitter.com/chriscanty chris canty

        Your official objection is denied. The iphone 3GS is a definite generation. There were hundreds of improvements made to both software and hardware. The phone just looked the same.

      • Tee

        Also denied on the fact that generational changes aren’t revolutionary, they are evolutionary. The iPod 4g and iPod 5g are separated only in the fact that one came as 20gb small and 40gb big, and the other came as 30gb small and 60gb big. Both have the same “hardware design,” click wheel, color screen, and operational functions. There are no unwritten rules.

      • Guest

        wow you still cry about people downranking you? haha you have no life

      • Tee

        Where were my tears, precisely? I’m merely pointing out the absurdity and ignorance of people that are too retarded to think for themselves… that they need someone else to tell them what they think, and even then, they get it dead wrong. Grow a pair, “Guest”.

      • @TeeTee

        haha funny there Tee (if you call that a name). The fact that you bitched about people downranking you is pretty sad. Additionally, you don’t know shit about this 4G/LTE terminology so don’t make absurd comments like “oh and when I said…” because you just copied information from wikipedia.

  • AirRuler

    Game over.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve been getting over 5mb down on 3G for a year and a half. Welcome to the club. 4G is just a label that 99% of consumers don’t understand. Roll out 4G at 5-6MB down and I’ll still be laughing while AT&T still has a 21mb 3G network.

      • jason6g

        you are one of the lucky few it seems who has a positive experience with at&t. im lucky if i can pull down 800k reliably on my 3gs and a few friends in my area with ip4 are the same. on my vzw droid i can at least count on pulling down 1.2-1.5 megs at any given point in time. oh and it can also make and receive phone calls, unlike my at&t device. This is the battle that verizon wins hands down. when im at the office near philadelphia then yes, the iphone is a faster, but nothing to write home about. everywhere else i go i have shotty service and struggle to even send sms at times, all the while my droid just works. i cant wait for lte – same coverage, just faster speeds. being able to download at 15mb most anywhere i go sure will be nice (fully rolled out)

      • Anonymous

        I wouldn’t be surprised to see Verizon having some of the same issues going to LTE. It’s not the carrier that’s the problem it’s the technology. CDMA has far better single tower coverage and devices can pick up signal from more than one tower at a time. While GSM hands the signal off from tower to tower. And the way the iPhone handles the tower switching is the main issue which leads to more dropped calls. Now Verizon gets to join the club going to a GSM derivative. I’m curious to see how good the network is. The only real thing going for them will be that the LTE network will carry it’s own signal and won’t be saturated in any one market for a long time to come. Sadly enough the iPhone accounts for about 12% of AT&Ts network but consumes about 73% of the total data available.

      • Donny

        While I agree with your assessment on at&t you don’t have an iphone. Sorry.

      • enlightened

        LTE is not a GSM derivitive. The signaling technology is OFDMA which has nothing to do with GSM. The confusion you are helping to spread to the casual reader comes from the fact that LTE will use SIM cards which yes is used by phones that work over ‘gasp’ GSM but has nothing to do with how calls are initiated or completed over a wireless network.

        You sure have a lot to say for someone who is constantly wrong when they post comments.

  • Eric

    Just watch, if Apple does release an iPhone on Verizon next year… it will only be CDMA.

    • serpentor

      It’ll be called iPhone 4G.

    • Anonymous

      Apple is smart because they know the first generation LTE 4G chipsets are going to be total power hogs.

    • hates ATT

      Who cares about the iPhone. I’m waitig for the HTC Mecha to come to Big RED!

      • Anonymous

        Been surfing 3G @ over 5Mb for a year and a half now. Thank Verizon for finally releasing something over 2Mb down. Hate AT&T. Lol. By the time “big red” gets an LTE device I’ll be surfing 21mb down on my iPhone. Verizons new motto. Always 2 steps behind.

      • Anonymous

        Your comment is ignorant on so many levels.. I believe you are in fact the first person ever to tout HSPA over LTE.. Makes no sense.. And if you live in the US the only way you were gettin 5mbps a year and a half ago on a GSM phone was over wifi…

      • light2themasses

        21Mbs down in Theory does not equate to a real world experience. Good luck with getting those speeds on HSPA.

        BTW – with VZW LTE 5Mbs to 12Mbs down is the average experience which means you will be able to burst higher depending on network load.

      • Anonymous

        HSPA is capable well beyond 21. Many countries are already going to 48. And they are still on 3G. Verizon is blowing up 4G because they don’t have anything else to go to.

      • http://twitter.com/khaminsenz Feed Back

        the information here is contradictory. You say “Hate AT&T” but the iPhone is only on AT&T. Also LTE devices are already being tested in the field. And to my knowledge no service from any carrier delivers 21Mbps on a consistent basis and will NOT anytime soon, certainly not AT&T.

        Where are you going to get this throughput? AT&T or Verizon?

        What carrier are you actually on?

        What are you talking about?

  • Chellykay

    I have a feeling Verizon LTE service will be expensive… Wonder if they will follow sprints lead and charge $10 extra per month for “premium data” or will they skip that just to have an edge over them.? This should be interesting…

  • http://rmbo47.myopenid.com/ rmbo47

    Obviously they’re going to charge extra for LTE. Look at what Sprint has done with 4G – they charge a $10/month “premium data” fee.

    Also note that in order to use this LTE network you will have to purchase a new phone.

  • http://twitter.com/batrad Devesh Batra

    Verizon has an event schduled for the 7th at the Medolands for NY/NJ..

  • Davva360

    Not excited about 4G yet. From what I have seen with my pals Sprint Evo it is no faster than AT&Ts 3G network in my area.

    • @you

      Your comment is worthless as it is pure conjecture based upon your experience in one location with your pal’s EVO device. Heck, your pal could be one of the many that bought and EVO in a non WiMax market for all we know. Suffice to say, Sprint’s WiMax is not in the same ballpark as what VZW will roll out shortly. For VZW The whole is more than the sum of it’s parts when you see what you can do with LTE optimized over 700Mhz spectrum with fiber backhaul and changes to the core of the network. VZW is advertising 5-12Mbs and 30-40ms latency on a fully loaded network. From my experience, VZW is very honest about what its network can and cannot do vs. the competition.

      • Beatredsux

        How do you expect VZW to hold 5-12Mps as an avg speed while running on 700Mhz? It’s great for in-building penetration but capacity is where is falls short. That is why VZW is going cap their data users; they do not have enough spectrum to supply the demand.

        If the Iphone does come to VZW, I can see the whole at&t/iphone debacle happen to VZW.

  • Anonymous

    But Sprint has 68 Markets Right now….Today…November 30th.

    • @sprintroll

      68 of worthless is still worthless

    • dman

      It took Sprint 2 years to get 68 markets. Verizon is launching in 38 markets as of December… Not bad as far as a frist launch goes. and by the end of 2011 VZW will likely have 2/3 of their markets covered with full coverage by 2013. If wimax is your thing great, but the fact that Sprint has had a 2 Year head start with 4G Wimax and only manged 68 markets is pretty sad you would think they would have full coverage by now

    • BOZMAN

      Yes, but sprint did not launch LTE but rather 3G on steroids although they call it 4G, big difference there.

  • Homer

    The way they will be charging for it kind of defeats the purpose of having “4G” in the first place… From what I saw you will have to choose between throttled speeds with more data allowance, or faster speeds with less data allowance. But hey it’s Verizon, what do you expect?

  • Gag

    We have known about Verizon launching 4G for a while. However, it is really the pricing that I am interested to find out and I hope tomorrow’s press conference sheds substantive info on pricing and equipment timelines. I don’t just want something that’s all about chest beating and pointless marketing. Congratulations to Verizon for deploying a worldwide standard that let’s you do voice and data at the same time!

    As for this whole iPhone subthread going on, I agree that it likely won’t be an LTE phone when it launches on Verizon unless AT&T has an LTE network ready to launch by next summer. As shown by the EVO, 4G phones are battery guzzlers. I also wonder that if rumor is to be believed, will the iPhone launching on Verizon be the first Verizon phone to have a front facing camera? Either way, by launching a 4G network and getting an iPhone at the beginning of the year, Verizon is going to have the most buzz going into next year.

  • Lisa

    I would love to get more than one bar in certain spots on my porch (only with verizon no other carriers), but they seem less concerned with getting better coverage to the rural areas and pushing 4g in areas that probably already have great coverage. But, Hey I gotta have my phone for work though.

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