Verizon, Google issue joint statement on net-neutrality

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Today, Google and Verizon released a joint statement outlining the parallel feelings the two companies foster towards net-neutrality. The statement contains seven points that both feel are crucial to keeping the world wide web open and accessible while fostering innovation, growth, and leadership in the United States. Google and Verizon support FCC enforcement of net-neutrality principles and published the memo as, “a suggested legislative framework for consideration by lawmakers.” Hit the jump to read the statement in its entirety. 

A joint policy proposal for an open Internet

Posted by Alan Davidson, Google director of public policy and Tom Tauke, Verizon executive vice president of public affairs, policy, and communications

The original architects of the Internet got the big things right. By making the network open, they enabled the greatest exchange of ideas in history. By making the Internet scalable, they enabled explosive innovation in the infrastructure.

It is imperative that we find ways to protect the future openness of the Internet and encourage the rapid deployment of broadband. Verizon and Google are pleased to discuss the principled compromise our companies have developed over the last year concerning the thorny issue of “network neutrality.”

In October, our two companies issued a shared statement of principles on network neutrality. A few months later we submitted a joint filing to the FCC, and in an April joint op-ed our CEOs discussed their common interest in an open Internet. Since that time, we have listened to all sides of the debate, engaged in good faith with policy makers in multiple venues, and challenged each other to craft a balanced policy framework. We have been guided by the two main goals:

1. Users should choose what content, applications, or devices they use, since openness has been central to the explosive innovation that has made the Internet a transformative medium.

2. America must continue to encourage both investment and innovation to support the underlying broadband infrastructure; it is imperative for our global competitiveness.

Today our CEOs will announce a proposal that we hope will make a constructive contribution to the dialogue. Our joint proposal takes the form of a suggested legislative framework for consideration by lawmakers, and is laid out here. Below we discuss the seven key elements:

First, both companies have long been proponents of the FCC’s current wireline broadband openness principles, which ensure that consumers have access to all legal content on the Internet, and can use what applications, services, and devices they choose. The enforceability of those principles was called into serious question by the recent Comcast court decision. Our proposal would now make those principles fully enforceable at the FCC.

Second, we agree that in addition to these existing principles there should be a new, enforceable prohibition against discriminatory practices. This means that for the first time, wireline broadband providers would not be able to discriminate against or prioritize lawful Internet content, applications or services in a way that causes harm to users or competition.

Importantly, this new nondiscrimination principle includes a presumption against prioritization of Internet traffic – including paid prioritization. So, in addition to not blocking or degrading of Internet content and applications, wireline broadband providers also could not favor particular Internet traffic over other traffic.

Third, it’s important that the consumer be fully informed about their Internet experiences. Our proposal would create enforceable transparency rules, for both wireline and wireless services. Broadband providers would be required to give consumers clear, understandable information about the services they offer and their capabilities. Broadband providers would also provide to application and content providers information about network management practices and any other information they need to ensure that they can reach consumers.

Fourth, because of the confusion about the FCC’s authority following the Comcast court decision, our proposal spells out the FCC’s role and authority in the broadband space. In addition to creating enforceable consumer protection and nondiscrimination standards that go beyond the FCC’s preexisting consumer safeguards, the proposal also provides for a new enforcement mechanism for the FCC to use. Specifically, the FCC would enforce these openness policies on a case-by-case basis, using a complaint-driven process. The FCC could move swiftly to stop a practice that violates these safeguards, and it could impose a penalty of up to $2 million on bad actors.

Fifth, we want the broadband infrastructure to be a platform for innovation. Therefore, our proposal would allow broadband providers to offer additional, differentiated online services, in addition to the Internet access and video services (such as Verizon’s FIOS TV) offered today. This means that broadband providers can work with other players to develop new services. It is too soon to predict how these new services will develop, but examples might include health care monitoring, the smart grid, advanced educational services, or new entertainment and gaming options. Our proposal also includes safeguards to ensure that such online services must be distinguishable from traditional broadband Internet access services and are not designed to circumvent the rules. The FCC would also monitor the development of these services to make sure they don’t interfere with the continued development of Internet access services.

Sixth, we both recognize that wireless broadband is different from the traditional wireline world, in part because the mobile marketplace is more competitive and changing rapidly. In recognition of the still-nascent nature of the wireless broadband marketplace, under this proposal we would not now apply most of the wireline principles to wireless, except for the transparency requirement. In addition, the Government Accountability Office would be required to report to Congress annually on developments in the wireless broadband marketplace, and whether or not current policies are working to protect consumers.

Seventh, and finally, we strongly believe that it is in the national interest for all Americans to have broadband access to the Internet. Therefore, we support reform of the Federal Universal Service Fund, so that it is focused on deploying broadband in areas where it is not now available.

We believe this policy framework properly empowers consumers and gives the FCC a role carefully tailored for the new world of broadband, while also allowing broadband providers the flexibility to manage their networks and provide new types of online services.

Ultimately, we think this proposal provides the certainty that allows both web startups to bring their novel ideas to users, and broadband providers to invest in their networks.

Crafting a compromise proposal has not been an easy process, and we have certainly had our differences along the way. But what has kept us moving forward is our mutual interest in a healthy and growing Internet that can continue to be a laboratory for innovation. As policy makers continue to formulate the rules of the road, we hope that other stakeholders will join with us in providing constructive ideas for an open Internet policy that puts consumers in charge and enhances America’s leadership in the broadband world. We stand ready to work with the Congress, the FCC and all interested parties to do just that.

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49 Comments
  • Anonymous

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    • asfd

      you guys realize that this is a GOOD thing right. Since the FCC has no control, at least Google can do something. This is a step in the right direction for sure. And wireless isnt the same as wireline, there is less capacity and it is still growing and being created. There is transparency in the wireless marketplace, but say for example verizon needs to put voice before data, thats why you cant regulate wireless the same. open your eyes people, Google is actually trying to HELP.

      • What

        Sheep

      • Seal

        Thanks for understanding what this is really about. it’s good to see some people can actually understand this.

      • MikeD

        Google and Verizon interpretation of Net Neutrality IS A BAD IDEA. They know most everything is going wireless. And thats when they will control the internet. Control what content can get through and how fast. There’s a lot more to this than meets the eye and I hope somebody in the government wakes the hell up! The ramifications are huge.

      • ekpil

        Would my call about the weather be more important than you’re email about medication? The think the value of the content of a message in what ever form is complicated.

        I think users, content providers and applications should decide what data is critical and not the ISP. The ISP should only be able to charge for usage not content. Usage being upstream and downstream latency, bandwidth, data throughput, and congestion (like on peak and off peak for power).

  • DJH

    So basically Verizon can now tell me what websites they will let me browse to at full 3G/4G speeds on my smartphone.

    It’s no wonder Google went along with this as they will also own the smartphone world in 3 years.

    Thank you for protecting the thing I use less and screwing American wireless data for years.

    • Disappointed

      Very good point. Great omission by VZ and Google. Reading other sites I think a lot of people are missing the fact that wireless is the way everything is going. This plan screws the consumers.
      Do No Evil my arse!

    • Chut Pata

      Consumer advocates slammed the proposal, saying it could result in the creation of private, closed broadband networks akin to cable TV systems, as opposed to today’s open Internet in which anyone can create a website or online service

  • Jarrett

    So Google plans on being a big winner in the wireless space. Verizon is a huge player and winner in the wireless space. Lined internet stays free and open, wireless internet to cost money.

    Google makes more money.
    Verizon makes more money.
    We spend more money.

    What the fuck happened to the “Do no evil” crap Google?

    • Ernie

      Interesting how NONE of the fandroids are here. When it’s something against apple they come out in droves. But NOOOOOO, it’s their GOD Google, so, of course they MUST accept whatever Google says.

      They are SOOOOO full of shit, it’s not even funny anymore.

      • Josh

        Like Apple fanboys don’t do the same thing? Both sides do it you idiot, and you’re no different you fucking tool.

      • ekpil

        I have a droid I like my droid in part because it’s more open than some alternatives. I’m sure some people could be convinced only apple approved websites should be available but that wouldn’t work for me.

    • Seal

      Whats wrong with Companies wanting to make more money. Think where technology would be without companies like Verizon & Google. It’s called Capitalism you idiot!

      • Chut Pata

        No. There is nothing wrong in big businesses using their muscle to end your freedom of choice, and milk all your money. The damned Anti-trust laws are communism. It is a free country … for big businesses, not you and me.

      • m1

        Yeah, while posting on this message board doesn’t do much, it’s at least a first step at democracy. Don’t get me wrong, I love capitalism – but in scenarios where the human race is at danger of enslavement democracy has to override by any means possible.

        m1

  • Dara

    Let me rephrase:

    “Sixth, we feel that wireless and wireline internet should be considered seperately so that customers continue to pay for the internet twice and that we can freely engage in throttling on our wireless network.

    We will be transparent about it, by which we mean that when we get caught throttling to conserve our oversold capacity, we’ll come up with a good story about how people who actually use what they were told they were paying for are, in fact, mean people who are hurting everyone else. We will use the money that these mean people paid us to convince technologically naive government types of their meanness”

  • Mr. Bill

    How, will they differentiate the services?

  • Oldandintheway

    I’m going to hook my land line back up before it’s too late.

    • Chut Pata

      So you think land line is not owned by Verizon or AT&T? If it was not own by them, would they still be charging you more for your land line than Metro PCS charges for their wireless?

  • http://www.verizonwireless.com VZW

    Before people go crazy, this is NOT Verizon WIRELESS. This is the Landline/Fios Verizon.

    • bonesb

      Read the “sixth” point. It’s just a matter of time…

    • TE

      They own more than 50%..same company basically.

      • Frank Abagnale

        This guy is just the OFFICIAL BGR Verizon apologist… just let him spew his BS

      • T

        They own 51%… what’s that mean other than nothing? They have their own corporate board and they make their own decisions and enter their own contracts….

  • http://marriottmercantile.com Jameson

    If we get the government more involved everyone will lose!

    • bonesb

      So the Fed should not put about $7B of broadband infrastructure contracts out to bid? And the FCC should not put extra wireless spectrum out to bid? Sure, let’s hand it all over to the private, for-profit companies and watch them squeeze us for every last dollar they can. Good plan!

    • Stop

      Can we stop with the whole government involvement is evil or bad. Yes too much regulation is not a good thing. But gov’t plays a very good role in ensuring society functions properly. Go to a developing country and see for yourself how a lack of government intervention (in a positive way) affects people’s lives, you have greedy companies building 8,9 or 10 stories on buildings that are zoned for only 5 and then they collapse killing everyone in the building. There are a million examples I can give. Stop with the whole government intervention is an evil thing you have no idea what your talking about.

      • mstarman

        I don’t disagree with your general point but no building has ever collapsed due to ignoring zoning laws. Poor construction practices or engineering might kill, but not a floor area ratio. You probably mean building codes.

  • Jarrett

    “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

    President Reagan would be proud.

    • benr

      Yep. And when regulation is dissolved we then use public money to bail out the a**hats after they make horrible choices. Yeah, I’m thinking you anarky economics people should just go away for a while .. at least until the public forgets that lack of regulation caused all this crap.

      • Chut Pata

        But that is exactly what “Reaganomics” is. Robin Hood in Reverse. Steal from the poor to feed the rich. End the regulations so that executives can show false profits and get fat bonuses, then run leaving the company bankrupt so the government can tax you and me to bail them out. This is the very spirit of capitalism as defined by Ronald Wilson Reagan (6+6+6 = 666).

    • WalterSobchak

      First +1 I have given Jarrett

    • Jarrett’s newborn son

      Come on dad. You weren’t even alive when he was president. Stop trying to make yourself relevant to the topic with meaningless comments like that.

      Love, Junior

      ps: Mom trashed your new iPhone 4.

  • VZW Slave

    Verizon does nothing wrong, ever.

  • mostlyDigital

    Section 5 says, This means that broadband providers can work with other players to develop new services.examples might include … new entertainment and gaming options.

    This is a reference to “selectable output control” (SOC)—until now forbidden by the FCC. The FCC recently waived the ban for the MPAA. Bottom line – it shuts down unprotected audiovisual inputs from accessing service. That means “No HDMI, No Service”. Similar to the analog loophole, providers are disabling any method of home recording any cable signals and they’re doing it by forcing everyone to replace their hardware with hardware that they can control.

    The rationale was that SOC was required for the cable companies to be able to offer first-run movies over cable, which may or may not happen. The result is that lots of equipment immediately becomes obsolete.

    I wanted to see something good come out of the Verizon/Google discussions. I’m very disappointed.

  • 9/11 was staged

    @STOP

    Google “World Trade Center Building 7″…the government doesn’t care about you and is glad you play along like a nice little sheep. While you are out chanting yes we can like a zombie, the bank aka the government is bending you over in all aspects of your life.

    • ElDuderino

      How did that building crash? It wasn’t hit by a plane?
      Thanks for bringing that up now i am going to turn into some kind of crazy conspiracy theorist.

  • Wilhelm

    I get my slaves to use hand-cranked phones for faster-than-dial-up speeds. The Man can nickel & dime me and the government can try to take my slaves, but they sure as hell can’t take my internet away.

  • neo

    Fuck google and verizon.

    • Josh

      Yeah and fuck Apple for releasing a botched product as is and fuck AT&T for having shitty service in NY and San Fran.

  • HanFeitzu

    Notice Verizon doesn’t feel this should apply to wireless… I think it absolutely should. as wireless becomes a more common means of connecting to the internet, it is just as important to apply the same standards.

  • Lord Brian

    There’s only 1 internet, and both VZ and GOOG both know that wireless is slowing becoming the biggest growth tech for access to the internet.

    Google lost its balls when it comes to true net neutrality support. they caved to Verizon because of greed.

  • zzz

    You guys don’t understand the inherent difference between wireless and wired do you? Wired bandwidth is limited only by the infrastructure we put down. Wireless is limited by PHYSICS. There’s only so much spectrum we can use.

    You cannot use the same solution for both. Well, maybe you can, but we don’t know yet. And that’s all Google/Big Red is saying, let’s take a longer closer look, make a decision tailored to wireless because it’s NOT the same as wired and treating it the same could have bad outcomes.

    zzzzzz l2read + comprehend kids.

    • Christopher Baker

      Yes, wireless needs it’s own solution. My phone company damn well better prioritize its data. I don’t want a crappy connection because some asshole is running torrents off his phone

    • Magius

      I agree to an extent. Yes, the bandwidth is limited by the available spectrum. However this doesn’t mean that the principles of net neutrality cannot be applied.

      Remember, there are two different things in play here and people often get confused about them. There is quality of service, QoS, in which certain types of traffic are given priority because they really need it to work. This is automatic and transparent and other traffic is not really affected all that much by it. The reason other traffic is not affected is because some types of traffic deal better with lost/delayed packets and latency than others.

      What Verizon and the other telcos want starts with having some company pay so their traffic is guaranteed a certain speedy transfer. Given enough time and leeway it ends with Telcos becoming the reincarnation of CompuServe, AOL, etc. Where the internet is served in pieces and “premium” content is up for grabs, for a premium price. How will the little guy compete in a place like this with no resources to pay for the big time service and speed? How will you enjoy your internet when you may have to pay extra to get the blog package or the asian countries access package?

      Sure, it is all speculation on my part. Still, do you think it would be far fetched of them?

    • ekpil

      I invoke my lord PHYSICS!

      All transmissions are limited by those bounds and while the limits are different I believe we are far from maxing out our use of broadcast spectrum. If we were to use a mesh network with directional transmitters and direction receivers with automated signal strength controls to limit overlap we could have an excess of bandwidth available.

      Though depending on the number of hops in such a network latency might be a problem.

      That said I still don’t want my phone carrier blocking or degrading my service to this site or any other content I choose on their whim.

  • fedup

    Forget the government, what the hell do we need them for now anyway…. the Corporations are blatantly making the laws! That should be the REAL story here! Who the hell voted for Verizon or Google, please raise your hands!

  • Sean111

    This will be interesting to see it play out. America is seriously behind when it comes to high speed internet access. Hell our “high” speed access is crap compared to many other countries. This PR talks about allowing the FCC more control over protecting people from things that companies like Comcast have been doing. As for wireless, if you want wireless access without any restrictions buy a damn wifi router and stay in the area. As ZZZ stated it’s a technology that has many limitations where wired networks are limited to length but can be boosted to get over the signal attenuation. This will be something interesting to watch play out over time.

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