Revised iOS ad policy cuts independents a break, makes it tougher for Google

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It comes as no surprise — since Steve Jobs hinted at it during D8 — that Apple has once again revised the controversial section 3.3.9 of its iOS developer agreement. Section 3.3.9 deals specifically with what App Store applications can and cannot do when it comes to the collection of user and device data. The new modifications seem to be more lenient towards independent ad agencies; allowing them to collect user data after obtaining explicit permission from Apple to do so. However, what they’re not so lenient towards is allowing non-independent ad agencies, such as Google’s AdMob, to collect user and device data. The language of the agreement seems to create a legal loophole, that, if exercised, would allow Apple to cut AdMob out of serving ads to its iOS devices:

3.3.9 You and Your Applications may not collect, use, or disclose to any third party, user or device data without prior user consent, and then only under the following conditions:

- The collection, use or disclosure is necessary in order to provide a service or function that is directly relevant to the use of the Application. For example, without Apple’s prior written consent, You may not use third party analytics software in Your Application to collect and send device data to a third party for aggregation, processing, or analysis.

- The collection, use or disclosure is for the purpose of serving advertising to Your Application; is provided to an independent advertising service provider whose primary business is serving mobile ads (for example, an advertising service provider owned by or affiliated with a developer or distributor of mobile devices, mobile operating systems or development environments other than Apple would not qualify as independent); and the disclosure is limited to UDID, user location data, and other data specifically designated by Apple as available for advertising purposes.

At last week’s D8 conference, Jobs singled out ad agency Flurry for its role in outing prototype iPads through the collection of device data embedded in iPad applications. Apple insists that its data collection policies are about protecting the privacy of its users and not thwarting competition.

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29 Comments
  • JoeBold

    Google should fire back with blocking their products on IOS devices.

    • Ernie

      Why? Seems Google started it. They were on apples board and god knows what information they took. They invited Eric to the board and trusted him.

    • Ernie

      Either way google wouldn’t be so stupid. How the hell do you ignore the 85 million iPhone and Touch users? Add to that the millions more on the iPad. Google is in the advertising business. Thank god they are a lot smarter than you. Othewise I’d sell their stock.

    • MikeD

      Uh lets see. What would you say if Apple outright blocked Google? You’d be the first to call the FTC right?

    • Rob

      If Microsoft blocked Google on Windows you’d be spitting chips…

    • iAd byte

      so who is paying the freight for delivering all those little iAd banners throughout the majority of the world on pay as you go data plans? You got it – the consumer.

      Welcome to Steve Jobs’ Magic World of iSpam, where you get to pay for the delivery of yet another source of spam you don’t want, don’t need and shouldn’t be there.

      Just because developers are giving their craptastic applications away is not a good enough reason start taking bandwidth that doesn’t belong to you, Steve, you shit. Find another way.

  • Ernie

    Things getting nastier between these two companies.

  • MikeD

    ooo man its getting ugly.

    • ernielm

      Hey MikeD! Let’s see how long until all the folks here start burning apple because they are “doing” this. But not ONE talks about how Google, knowing what Apple was up to because they sat on their board, took. God knows how many initiatives (including iPhone) they stole from Apple while sitting on their board.

      In my opinion the biggest mistake Jobs has made in awhile was trust Eric Schmidt. I love Google but don’t like Schmidt A SINGLE BIT!

      • skyy_flyer

        Can somebody get a Disk Doctor? Ernie here seems to be skipping over the same phrase over and over and over and over and over.

    • MikeD

      android rules.

      just wanted to let everyone know.

  • Me

    Apple should probably tread carefully here. They are already moving into antitrust territory, and regulatory agencies are taking notice. Mobile ads could become the browser wars of the new decade, and if iAd can access user data while other, specific ad agencies are suddenly barred from using it, regulators may come calling.

    • Rob

      Anti-trust?
      Microsoft own 90% of desktops
      Google own 70%+ of web ads

      Question is why Apple users are fanbois when there aren’t very many Apple users out there in the first place… they’re 4th in product globally…3rd in US.

      A complete misnomer made by activists who simply have nothing better to do… they’re the ones who pulled apart toy cars as kids and now want to break something else they don’t know how to repair..

      • dario

        Sorry but Ernie just diffused your argument. 85 million iPhone and Touch users equals a very large majority of handheld devices – smartphone, etc. Apple owns the phone market in the U.S. Plain and simple. Time to put the screws to Apple like MS in the 90s

      • Rob

        So that begs the question that every Android owner keeps saying that Android is dominant…??? Can’t have both…
        ‘more devices in the market, more carriers, more users, open source’… those are all arguments for dominance… yet when it conveniently arrives at an argument about tall poppies… the zeitgeist moves against Apple.
        People choose, if they like they stay, if not they flee…
        it’s all about choice. Apple make choices about uniformity, user interface, media offerings on the platform and strictly manage the quality of developer product…and the outcome is what people buy every 3 seconds in the US… either an iPhone or iPod or iPad… what a developer authors on one device, works on ALL three… and that’s why people buy the stuff.

  • Antizzy

    Apple don’t have to give out ANY data if they choose not to on their platforms.

    By saying this is a monopoly is essentially saying apple already won, if access to their platforms data is grounds for antitrust investigations…..

  • chet stovepiper

    magical and revolutionary.

    god, shut the fuck up.

  • MicroNix

    Jobs is walling himself in and mark the words, it will eventually be the downfall of Apple. He thinks everyone in the world is going to own an iPhone. I’ve got news for him. With Android outselling the iPhones now, if he keeps walling off the iPhone, it is going to become a proprietary POS in its own delusional world. While Android remains open, doing video with other devices, poor iPhone users will first have to find a wifi hotspot, and then find someone else that wanted an iPhone bad enough that they went to AT&T. Good luck with that Stevie! The sanitarium is coming!!!

    • Rob

      So while all your personal data, location, carrier info, email transactions, usage habits and any other data your app developers siphon from you and your usage… and pass that on to whomever… all along whilst a team of virus authors send you off with a trojan which hops from open source to open source Android via wifi bluetooth… Apple will laugh straight back at ya bro.

      • dario

        Apple has security holes or have you not checked non-bias Apple sites?

      • Rob

        Compared with the leaky open source completely unregulated and peppered versions platform that is Android… those are the ones that would demise the user base…

  • Francis

    “Apple insists that its data collection policies are about protecting the privacy of its users and not thwarting competition.”

    Hah! Sure, just like app store guidelines are about keeping porn off iPhones.

  • sean76

    Some of these people sound so retarded, hello Google is the search engine to the masses. I cant see them blocking anything, on any device any time soon. As for the person saying Android is outselling the iPhone. Go stand outside an Apple store on June 24th. Might make you realize how large Apple really is. Android is awesome, but It has a ways to go before its as polished as the iPhone and its OS. Listen, Apple is huge, and they’ll continue to do what ever they want, because they can, simple as that.

    And I’m not a fan boy for any of you that just sit there and flame anyone who happens to like Apple products. As a matter in fact I’m typing this from my HTC EVO, yes there are people out there that actually like a variety of products.

  • Brad

    Whoa, so we’re calling it iOS instead of iPhone OS now? Hmm, iOS, what does that remind me of? Oh yeah, the IOS operating system found in Cisco’s networking equipment. I hope Apple isn’t trying to use that as an official name for the OS. If they are, I smell another lawsuit brewing.

    • Rob

      FYI Apple and Cisco have already agreed on licencing months ago.
      I wouldn’t doubt a future transition/handover/purchase of the identity either.

  • Keymaker

    Looks like a bunch of ya didn’t read the entire article. All it says is, if anyone want’s to collect your data and re-sale it they have to let you know first. WTF is wrong with that? in other words they’re saying to google, if you wanna collect people’s info you have to let them know you’re doing it, nothing more.

  • vishnu

    Uh!

  • http://www.absolutefiction.com Rono

    To quote Jobs:
    “iAd, SPAM built right in the operating system!”

    On a serious note, Apple is so scared of Google, they’ll do anything to to try and keep any “advantage”they can. Including shoot themselves in the foot or raise anti-competitive issues.

  • Dara

    OK so just to clear it up, since I don’t give half a shit about Apple’s marketing:

    Is this phrase:

    “An unbelievably beautiful and intuitive service for our magical and revolutionary devices”

    Actually what Apple is calling their spam program, or is someone at BGR being clever?

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