DoJ extends Apple antitrust probe to other forms of media beyond music

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The U.S. Department of Justice’s investigation of Apple’s alleged anti-competitive practices has grown to include video and other forms of multimedia, the New York Post is reporting. Citing multiple sources, the Post claims that the DoJ has queried several major media companies asking whether or not they feel Apple is in a position of undue influence over their products. A similar investigation focusing on Apple’s dominance in digital music was said to have commenced earlier this week. Whether or not this will eventually lead to a full-blown antitrust lawsuit being slapped against Apple is unclear, but it seems logical that if anyone is going want to do battle with Apple it’s the tough-talking Hollywood folk. As one of the Post’s insiders said, “you can’t dictate terms to the industry.” Trust us, we know.

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  • Bry

    This will be interesting to see how it plays out

    • JBR

      My thoughts exactly

  • StevenGlansburg

    This is a tough one. I hate Hollywood and Apples business practices as of late.

  • Jim

    Can Droid do that?

  • seven5suited

    You’re citing the New York Post? Good luck with that one.

  • Mrwirez

    Dear DoJ, Time to break Apple up just like Ma Bell..

  • http://(null) justfinethanku

    wait, since when is selling music, movies and tv shows anti-competitive when the downloaded files only work on a select few devices?

    kindle readers can download books from somewhere else.

    zune listeners can use a subscription service or download music elswhere.

    we have netflix, hulu, amizon, wallmart, pandora, and thousands of other online media providers not to mention the millions of different music/ movie shops across the US.

    HOW IS THIS ANTI-COMPETITIVE????

    if anything it is pro-competitive as Apple forces other companies to stop marking up prices by 10,000 percent.

    this is only going to waste time and resources that can be used fighting child porn and garbage like that.

    I didn’t sign up to give my tax money to these people.

    Posted from BGR Mobile (iPhone).

    • MikeD

      We have a Wilt Chamberlain problem. Wilt was so dominating that the NBA changed the rules. This very same thing is happening now in the digital age The competitors are so scared of the fact that Apple has such a good ecosystem tied to their products. There are a slew of options people have. There is no anti-competitive in Apple’s actions. I’m pretty sure DoJ will try to change the rules, but not find Apple doing anything that other companies aren’t already doing.

    • Vanessa

      This story isn’t so much about Apple’s method of content delivery to consumers.

      The suit alleges anti competitive business practices Apple uses to the industry in general. Apple will punish labels by refusing to sell their content if they agree to a certain level of exclusivity with another digital music outlet like Amazon for a specified period of time.

      Sound familiar? This same practice that Apple punishes others for is exactly what they do here in the US. They sign up a huge exclusive agreement with AT&T in exchange for a huge windfall of money.

      Apple views extortion as okay as long as it benefits them. If another company like Amazon wants to sign any exclusive music deal with any artist then Apple cries foul. Total double standard here.

      • dario

        Finally, some common sense. Great explanation by the way.

        Apple wants to completely control the user experience. From top to bottom. From content to hardware. Everything will sit in the Apple bubble and Apple will take a piece of the action from every layer. If you work around the bubble you get punished. Fanboys defending this type of behavior are hypocrites. Plain and simple.

      • Alex

        Oh so you’re saying that it’s ok for Amazon to have exclusive deals and contracts with music labels and artits, but it’s not ok for Apple?

        As for At&t exclusivity. Don’t you think that Apple would make more money if they just sold it unlock to any carrier?

        There’s a good reason why Apple is making these BUSINESS decisions. At&t supports Apple’s technology, and that is the major reason why they made an exclusive contract with them. Verizon was Apple’s first choice, but Verizon does not support GSM technology rather CDMA which would be a step back in technology for Apple.

      • skyy_flyer

        While in my opinion is that I think the only people who know the true reason Apple and Verizon went there seperate ways, is only known by Apple and Verizon higher ups, I would have have to say surely Apple did their research prior to the phone even being made, and thus having the choice of going CDMA or GSM, and knew that Verizon was CDMA. And can you REALLY say with a straight face that ATT supports Apple’s “technology”(how are those patent lawsuits going again?) when they are dropping calls left and right? Could it be that Verizon knew how much of a network hog the iphone is? But I don’t think they meant it’s okay if Amazon did it, merely stated that if Amazon WERE to do it, they’d get hammered with the exact same issue. As far as thsoe citing how happy people are with Apple products, do keep in mind that Apple logo can be placed on a toaster and “this is the best toaster out there” would be said by countless fanatics.

      • Chona

        Those lawsuits filed by Nokia would take a long time. You cannot bring it up here as if Apple already lost or something. Unless you can share with us all the technology that Apple has rights and licenses on, and which ones they don’t. Can you? As for customer satisfaction, before you say that Apple only sells to fanatics, you may want to check out surveys conducted by reputable magazines like JD Powers. Apple products are very good products, and that is why they’re selling. It’s not just the Apple logo.

    • Alex

      I totally agree with you.

      Consumers obviously have choices. Apple is obviously doing something right to have gotten so much of their products sold. It’s not like they go out there and force everyone to buy their products.

      Same thing with record and movie labels. The reason why they’re flocking in to itunes, is because they know they’re protected and they know that Apple sells. But they do have a choice if they don’t want Apple to sell their products.

  • http://(null) justfinethanku

    @edward,

    really? calling someone else a “fanboi”??

    it is almost as stupid as me calling you a troll, knock it off. discuss the points, not the people!

    Posted from BGR Mobile (iPhone).

  • rederikus

    Well, let’s just hope that the J in DoJ finally gets to the rotten core of CrApple.

  • superonyx

    Its not about apple delivering music via itunes. Its about using your power to stop the creators from using competing providers. Would it be wrong if apple told gameloft that they would not release their games if they released a game on android

    • Patrick Moto Droid

      and as they have done with eBooks. No one likes a big arrogant company controlling everything you do. Google, with the few items that have made it to the press recently, is a bit of an exception as they offer services you wish to participate in at a no-cost option to you. Apple is a bit more like a pyramid scheme. Nickel and Diming you to death, its crazy.

  • paul

    burn in flames crapple. You can like their products all you want but it still doesn’t take away from their shady business decisions

  • iamajim

    My goodness-what a pissing contest. All of you crApple fans certainly got your panties in a bunch; I think Uncle Steve can take care of himself.

  • croldham

    DOJ did the same thing to Microsoft when they got too dominate and it changed nothing! Still the same crap OS coming out of Redmond. Actually windows 7 isn’t bad.

    anyway, AlGore will see that it doesn’t get too far.

    Posted from BGR Mobile (iPhone) at: Phoenix Valley of the Sun, Arizona, USA

  • Patrick Moto Droid

    This is what happens when Mr Jobs gets too high and mighty on his throne. He gets knocked down. Honestly, the way Apple bullies their customers, I’m surprised this has gone as far without repercussions. I haven’t bought a song on iTunes in 2 years because of all the shenanigans they pulled with music I had already purchased. Screw Jobs and Apple.

  • Alex

    I don’t get it. I don’t see anything negative with what Apple is doing. Piracy is very rampant. That is the reason why CD stores are not doing too well in the past 10 years. Remember Napster? The music industry sees how tight Apple is and how Apple is against piracy. The music and movie industry is obviously making money off of itunes. Apple is a major player in mp3 and now mobile devices. Obviously music and and movie labels would want to invest more with itunes. I don’t see any antitrust violation there. Unless DoJ wants to control or dictate where music and movie labels distribute their music and movies to. But wouldn’t that be communism?

  • http://none MartinG

    its not about the method of delivery, or even the music being locked down… that has been said countless times already

    its more about Apple bullying content providers. Bullying the record labels or recording studios and eventually the game developers.

    when a label agrees to give amazon (for example) a 3 day exclusivity period on a certain album or song, Apple gets all pissy and threatens to not let that music be sold on ITunes. As crappy as it is, ITunes has a LARGE following, so, obviously labels studios and developers WANT their content sold on itunes.

    It starts like that then it becomes, “if you sell this record on amazon you cant sell it on ITunes”. Pretty soon ITunes becomes the sole provider of anything.

    THAT is anti-competitive

    • Chona

      Labels and developers have choices. How can you say that Apple bullies anyone?

      If labels and artists has the right and freedom to give Amazon exclusivity and leave out Apple, so does Apple have the right to refuse labels and artists to sell their materials on itunes. It’s just fair that labels and artists don’t play favoritism as well.

      • MartinG

        Its a 1 day only 1 day early exclusive. so iTunes wouldnt have access to it until the next day anyway.

        Gamestop signs exclusive deals all the time for bonus content in games bought from them. What if Walmart and other stores told game developers that their games would end up in the backroom and would only be available if someone asked for them specifically, just because gamestop had a one day early one day only exclusive.

        If this was MS it would be justified to all the apple fanboi’s. but because its apple its mysteriously OK.

      • Doll

        In every respect, Apple has the right to refuse labels and artitsts to sell their products on iTunes. I agree with you on that. But to not sell them because they are also selling their materials via another competitors’ site is wrong and it is bad business.

  • Peter

    iTunes is a piece of shit. I don’t understand how so many people subject themselves to such a crappy app design and app experience. How can apple get away with this crap? Are we this stupid? Jobs is laughing all the way to the bank.

    • MikeD

      Peter, you seem so obsessed with Steve Jobs rather than your music.

      People are using it because it works. Simple as that.

  • gw0n

    Once I used Pandora and LastFM I don’t listen to MP3′s anymore. I still get a daily reminder that there is some iTunes update I need to install. Guess its time to uninstall that ugly music system.

  • lolobabes

    anti trust law is a very complexed and dynamic regulation of protecting fair competition, regardless if its apple, google or microsoft… once you use your corporate muscle(evidently) to to kill competition thats when the red flag goes up then the government decides

  • Barb K

    I guess people will learn to secure their networks.

    Apple purposely makes it difficult to transfer material I own to non-Apple devices. Then once Jobs locks people into Apple’s closed environment he limits what I can watch by excluding content that does not bow to his extortion demands.

    This case will drag on but ultimately Apple will either lose to the Justice Department or lose in the marketplace. I am voting with my feet and dumping my Apple products (this is getting easier since my new Evo leapfrogged Apple 4). Apple is beginning to falter, but in the mean time I am happy to see the JD attack.

  • Mike

    Google’s data mining is a seperate issue altogether. It doesn’t diminish Apple’s actions.

  • Terry

    Boy somebody is angry they got suckered in to Steve-O’s snake oil sale.

    If you don’t want people to have access to your data, just make sure it doesn’t leave the walls of your mother’s basement.

    Adios, Douche!

  • dario

    I agree, Google is a bad boy and needs a spanking. But Apple is currently the bigger problem because they are controlling the content. And since they have such a large share of the existing smartphone market it makes sense to target a company that could do the most damage.

    Again, it made sense to target MS back in the day because they too will using their large market share to influence and control the content on their PCs. Fast forward to today and now it is Apple in the same position.

    Are there that many heads in the sand that cannot see what Apple is doing? It is like the late 90′s all over again but replace Microsoft with Apple.

    And while we are at it lets call it what it is really is and drop the fancy terms like “eco-system”. It is an environment ripe to create a monopoly, plain and simple.

  • ScottyRad

    Apple’s 4th generation iPhone hasn’t even been released yet, nor is the HTC EVO even on sale yet, so I’m calling BS on this.

    Also, the transfer issue of media has been a requirement of the Movie and Music industries and their concerns about piracy, not something Apple set out to do. I assume that since you’re so concerned about this you’re also up in arms about other proprietary systems like Adobe’s Flash or Microsoft’s DRM-locked files/systems too….

  • ScottyRad

    So how about instead of calling people names, you actually try and make a point with facts. Like, for example, what snake oil Apple (or Steve-O as you refer to it) has sold?

    Apple has incredibly high user satisfaction, people are happy with what they get, and it seems pretty obvious that people spewing out the venom probably have never really used one of the Apple products they’re railing against:

    (For those looking for some facts)
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10019711-37.html

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10222213-37.html

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20100521/tc_macworld/surveyipadmakinginroadsuserssatisfied_1

  • Mike

    I wouldn’t mind government action to further protect our privacy in regards to the data Google is gathering from us.

    There does that make you happy? It’s still two different issues.

  • dario

    Government handouts? WTF are you talking about? Are we at the point where we are just making $hit up now? You need better comebacks than that Steve.

    Apple is a good start. Put their head on the front grill of the car and then hit MS and Google next. Apple is the biggest offender as of today so why not hit the big guy first?

    Or is Apple except because the fanboys say it is only out of hate and jealousy that Apple is being targeted? The same excuses the MS fanboys gave out when it was MS on the defense back in the late 90′s. My how the tune changes when it is your company being called on BS and shenanigans.

  • JT

    If you aren’t willing to make the meager attempt at protecting your own privacy with a password, why would you expect the government to do more than that?

  • UberSapian

    I know this is late. Apples satisfaction rating is high because there are a lot of lemmings in this world.

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