WES 2010 Podcast: BGR, CrackBerry, and Phone Scoop talk all things BlackBerry

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This week at WES 2010 we sat down with the good folks from CrackBerry and Phone Scoop to wax-poetic about the highlights and lowlights of WES 2010. We flipped on the mic and Michael, BG and I all jumped on. We’ve got the podcast all ready to go for you below. Big thanks to the crew from CrackBerry for bringing all the podcasting gear.

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  • MB

    Do you mean crackberry in that last sentence instead of blackberry

  • grrr

    CrackBerry ftw

  • George

    You guys should do your own BGR podcast. I’m sure you’d get a big following.

  • Kevin

    You’re absolutely. The OS 6 is evolutionary, not revolutionary. You want revolutionary apps – wait till Flash comes to the Blackberry.

    As to why we didn’t see Flash previewed at WES? That was an epic FAIL. Surely they have something in development they could have shown.

  • Henry

    I would love a BGR podcast!

  • Dave

    i hear them complain RIM being slow and incremental but that never comes up about the iPhone which has the same exact problem.

    • SHSU10

      I agree, and I was talking about that with my buddy. While I agree Blackberry needs some fairly large cosmetic upgrades as well as software breakthroughs, the iPhone for better or worse has looked basically exactly the same for over 3 years, and even the “new” one leaked a couple weeks back looks basically the same with slight modifications.

      Also, 3 years to finally get multi-tasking? Countless friends I know who have of have had them, of which very few have/had their original..most had theirs fail on more than one occasion. And for Apple supposedly being so revolutionary, should it of taken 3 years and a 4th version to finally get a phone that finally has ALL the functions that it should of come with to begin with, for a company that supposedly is the poster child for “revolutionary technology”….I wasn’t aware multi-tasking and a flash were really ground breaking.

      • Kevin

        Agreed. But as stated in the podcast above, RIM is kind of hampered by being based on Java. Sure it’s secure, but you’re not going to get a lot of the gee-whiz interface and apps like you can with Android, Apple and the Windows 7 phones to be released later this year.

        Not trying to beat a dead horse. But we can still have the security of the Java platform but the beauty of flash apps when Adobe gets released to the Blackberry platform. You’ll be amazed at the quality of the applications that can be built with that software, especially when compared to the current line of products currently in App World.

        Flash is something that Jobs at Apple has made abundantly clear he wants nothing to do with on the iPhone or iPad and will not be present at least initially on the Windows 7 Phone – but will be present on the Android platform. So it will give us additional bragging rights over those platforms when it is launched.

      • canistel

        Please, stop talking about Java like you actually know what you’re saying… Java has nothing to do with why BB interface looks like it does (see Android, also Java)

    • rederikus

      Apple leads RIM. I do NOT think so. One word — multitasking.

      RIM has had this for years. CrApple is only just about to release.

  • tomato

    It’s ironic that this clip on everything blackberry can’t be accessed from my blackberry.

  • Brian

    I hope this OS 6 will work on my 9000

    • Ben

      It will probably work on a 9000 but i most likely will be slow with only 128 MB of RAM

  • Nicky Bobby

    I liked the mash up of sites. I normally listen to all the CB.com podcasts. Would mos def like to hear more BGR podcasts

  • Ben

    I agree with the part about how Rim should cut down on the number of different phones they build at a time.

    They should just have one Bold series phone at a time like the 9700 but put GSM and CDMA radios in the phone. in Black or white.

    with the one curve series phone at a time with either or GSM/CDMA. that come in multiple different colors.

    One Pearl series phone with either GSM/CDMA that come in different colors.

    and least one UPDATED Storm series phone with both GSM/CDMA

    That would give RIM 6 different phones. instead of 8.

  • bluehorseshoe

    I think RIM needs to separate the approach like BG said, one for biz, one for the consumer market. Stick with the Storm series (remove the need to click, please), Bold series (appeals to the full QWERTY crowd), and the Pearl. Add one more device/series with a slide out keyboard and I think you really hit all the markets effectively. Get creative with HW design and don’t fall asleep on the SW, constantly push out improvements, even if their incremental. Get Apps going and reach out to the developers, see what needs to be done that can enhance the experience and move forward faster in order to compete.

    Nice podcast guys.

  • Brandon

    I am in a WES session WA02 and they have multiple Flash icons on slides and the RIM presenter said the BB API will support developing in Flash. So it wasn’t a big announcement saying hey we have flash support now but at the next Dev. Conference in Nov. I bet they will discuss it there. I wonder if the new 6.0 OS visual features are built on Flash….

  • mike

    i cant believe this podcast only has 12 comments. finally the big 3 websites break down RIM. this was really needed. RIM was riding this BBM wave that gave them a blip on the sonar, but now they are dropping off! i really think customers BBM lists will be shrinking down as more and more customers go towards app endorsed phones.

  • er!kanav

    No mas tweet genius? I like how you snuck that in… Great podcast, hope RIM is listening.

  • Frank Castle

    Just back from WES and frankly I don’t even know why tech blogs attend. It’s focus is the business world of mobility. It’s not some here’s all the latest stuff. Sure they announce some new things but they already have a developer show, attend CITA as other events all year to announces things.

    WES is all about business connecting with other businesses on how to offer a better enteprise mobile experience. It’s not a trade show for consumers.

    • Andrew Munchbach

      We were at CTIA. The didn’t announce any new products there.

  • FlyingPig

    “RIM is kind of hampered by being based on Java.”

    Why? I’ve heard this on a number of occasions, but noone whines about the Android having developments based on Java, so why is it a problem for BlackBerry.

    From what I know, RIM’s OS kernel is written in C and is extremely secure. The Java VM is written in C.

    RIM’s UI wasn’t great, and it’s touch screens aren’t the best (maybe). But recent changes have advanced the UI, and OS 6 looks to be closer to a decent end point.

    Using Java means RIM can expose more API features to developers, since the Java VM prevents catastrophic failure on the device. The primary issue people face is when apps misbehave and the device could really use a warm reset button of some kind.

    • Really

      Yes, I’m pretty sure the OS is written in C.

      I’m not sure why the BGR guy is saying that developing in Java (and this is only on the Application side) is such a problem. Is it’s future uncertain? Is it harder to write in (I thought it was supposed to be easier)?

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