Nokia announces the 6700 classic Gold Edition

Lol!!!
this is exactly y Americans have zero interest in nokia. Nokia sales are stagnant here. Nokia posted $900 million loss lAst qurter. Ouch. Truth hurts. Wonder if $49 iPhone price has anything ti do with it????

Doesn’t really matter who the phone manufacturer is or what platform the phone runs. If it is not an iTunes connected device it really doesn’t matter. HTC could do very well if they just produced two phones, one CDMA and one GSM. load both with Android and flood all markets. They still wouldn’t sell anywhere near the iPhone numbers, but atleast we wouldn’t have people on this site pissing themselves every time a new HTC Android phone came out. Or was rumored to be on the way.

Anyone else curious about how the phone will actually last for say the first 3 months. Everyone drops their phone atleast once. It should be a scientific law. (And if you’re thinking about how you haven’t dropped your brand new iPhone or Droid yet, you better clutch it like you would a 2 week old baby cause that phone is about to eat concrete.) But as I was saying, Gold has a Mohs hardness of 2.5 – Thats 1.5 Mohs harder than TALC.

Interesting looking phone though if gold is your thing. Will they drop a white gold varient? XD

anyone else think that the picture is awesome

I loooove gooold!

Bling Bling

Nice but for that price I would rather get a smartphone.

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lmao … ya’ll wild .. i love the picture .. ” hey gold member.. hey gold member”

@ Dara,
surely you are not that stupid. Good audio equipment has nothing to do with software.

@Dara

Well over a billion downloads and over 100 million paid accounts would suggest other wise. And don’t bother with a windows analogy, most of microsoft’s revenue comes from bussiness licenses. Once they have a corporation hooked that corporation is done, You always have a choice with iTunes. You can use it or you don’t have too. Everyone hates Apple because they control most and soon all of our media. Everyone hates Microsoft because they make you pay for third rate software.

@Jarrett

Apple.. Microsoft… why do you think it’s about picking a team?

I wouldn’t touch Windows Media Player with a 30 foot pole either. It’s all ridiculous bloatware that doesn’t play any interesting formats, just like iTunes.

Winamp got inflated by AOL but even with that horrible stone around it’s neck it’s still a superior music player. Have you ever seen Milkdrop running at 1080p?

It probably hasn’t made it into your bubble yet. That bubble where iPods are like belly buttons and Apple controls “most and soon all of our media”.

It’s a great bubble and all, very shiny and pretty, but there’s a lot you’re missing out on.

For a glimpse outside, if you haven’t yet gone the full monty for Steve’s products, try ripping a CD using Exact Audio Copy and encoding it using LAME’s -V0 option. Now compare that to an iTunes ripped track. I suspect you’ll be disappointed in your “high quality” setting or whatever other obfuscation Apple has lovingly provided you with. If you poke around a little further, you might eventually hear a popping noise.

@ Dara
Well since my computer is a tool I use to enjoy what little free time I have, my “bubble” works well for me. Now, it would be great if I could lovingly call my computer a “rig” and have tons of outstanding “obscure” software that worked great on my phone (through various hacks). All while being unemployed and waiting for my Mom to bring dinner down to the basement for me.
I like the fact that all my stuff just works. Sure I can’t “customize” it nearly as much as sometimes I might like but it works as I would expect. I don’t ever need to defrag or reboot from a BSOD. I haven’t had a virus since 1997 (the last Windows computer I had) and my cost of ownership is less than most.
So yeah, my bubble works well for me. Life is funny though, maybe tomorrow I will have the great fortune of being unemployed and I will have more time for a hobby and less time supplying my family with a future.

@Jarrett

I’m glad that you feel your bubble is a good fit.

I’m sorry to hear that you find technology confusing. You should know though that not everyone is as limited in their capacity for knowledge.

I wonder though…

Since you recognize that you have a limited understanding of technology and that you’re in a self-imposed bubble, why is it that you think your opinion on anything but Apple products is noteworthy?

tl;dr: STFU you ignorant lemming

@ Dara,

Just on a guess I will assume you are not quite an adult. Whether by age or maturity. If you are suggesting that because I choose to use products that turn on and just work as not understanding technology or understanding it then I agree. I choose to have technology just work as I need it too. Just like when building houses, my Skil worm drive saw is the best saw I can use. DeWalt makes the most durable battery operated drills and reciprocating saws. Hitachi makes the best framing nail guns. Pasloade makes the best gas/battery operated nail gun. Once you find the equipment that just works your job is made easier. Why do you think IT people still use windows??? Because the fact that they are constantly trying to understand Microsoft “technology” keeps them working. If they shifted platforms things would pretty much just work and they would be out of a job and onto the next part of life.

“I choose to have technology just work as I need it too.”

Me too. But if it doesn’t just work the way I need it to, I make it work.

“Once you find the equipment that just works your job is made easier. ”

I’m an engineer, Apple’s just don’t work for that and there isn’t any way of making them without installing Windows.

“Why do you think IT people still use windows??? Because the fact that they are constantly trying to understand Microsoft “technology” keeps them working. If they shifted platforms things would pretty much just work and they would be out of a job and onto the next part of life. ”

Wow. You should start an IT consulting company so you can leverage your ability to make entire departments of people redundant. You could make a fortune walking into boardrooms and saying “Buy Apple, it just works” with absolutely no credentials or clue about anything else.

@Dara

The reason big corporations wouldn’t care is the same reason they never care. They are already to heavily invested. The amount of money and time to change out ones infrustructure wouldn’t make sense. That is why Microsoft is so big, companies have hundreds of millions if not billions already tied to wintel. Sure, enough companies are start to bring other platforms in but nothing in changing in the short term. The fact is, unless you Re using Linux you are stuck with inferior “technology as well.

On a cool note though, it’s nice to hear an engineer admit that they have to make their technology work for them. Do you like crackers and cheese? Could you imagine the insane look you would get if you suggested you work to make you own crackers and cheese? That is the look I am sporting right now that you spend so much time making technology work.
I think I am going to rip my stairway out tonight, I dislike the fact that with each equal step they get me closer to my upstairs. There has to be a more complex manner inwhich to ascend to my second floor.

“it’s nice to hear an engineer admit that they have to make their technology work for them.”

I would have thought that most engineers would freely admit to what is essentially their job description.

In fact the more difficult it is to get technology to work and the harder it is to understand, the more we get paid to do just that.

Like I said before, that’s a hell of a bubble you’ve got there.

I have yet to figure out what is wrong with my bubble? Especially since most major tech companies are trying to advance with a verticly integrated business so they to can create bubbles.
In Vegas about twelve years ago we had an issue where this flat roof wasn’t allowing the spacing for the electicle, plumbing and duct work to pass through. We had a rather large glu-lam beam that cut off all trades. I suggested to just ad a false ceiling a foot below the original ceiling height. It was already twelve foot ceilings and the home owner didn’t mind. Our company engineers decided that their “program show where the bearing radius was in the beam and hence by following their diagram the plumbing and electrical could drill through because we got it stamped. I assured my boss and the owner of this company that you do not drill through a wood beam without affecting it’s overall bearing. Well, I am no engineer I was told. So they went forward, the inspector red tagged the job and I had the pleasure of being paid double time to change out the beam and add the false ceiling.
So, as you could imagine, other than the guy from Flash of genius, I never really cared much for engineers.

Don’t let that fool you into thinking I don’t understand how important engineering is. I just know that every joke involving a lawyer could be just as funny replacing said lawyer with an engineer.

Those sound like engineers who just discovered that their CAD package came with an FEA module.

It “just works”, except that it doesn’t and they don’t know it.

At my last job, I did that type of analysis for real, which required me to know exactly what the software was doing and how to make it do exactly what I wanted. I also ended up having to explain to clients why their engineers didn’t have the same results as we delivered.

The interface for real FEA software is complex and mostly “unintuitive”, unlike the add on modules that Cad companies throw in with their latest version. The add ons are familiar to the Cad users and setting up simple stuff is, well, simple.

But the understanding isn’t there, and people end up doing something very simple, like treating something like wood as an isotropic material.

If the material removal your guys stamped was actually unsafe and they used FEA, like you suggest, I would bet that this is the exact mistake they made. (you’d have to give me good odds for the sheer lunacy of me figuring that out from your post).

But that’s exactly why I personally have no interest in something that “just works”. I’d prefer to have the whole picture and a paintbrush.

I agree to a point about the whole picture and a paint brush. Not so far as to things that should just work. If I grab a 16D (3inx131) nail out of my nail bag, and pair it with my hammer two things should always happen, I use one swing to set the nail and one swing to drive the nail home. Now if I changed the angle or if I am driving the over my head the could change to 3 or 4 swings. The fact is though the two items always do what the are suppose to do.
Now as far as the engineers go, could be software related and most likely you are right. Either or stupidity plYed the biggest role. In my line of work architects, engineers and sometimes inspectors share something in common, little to no field experience.
I think we could agree that when I go to spread my JIF extra crunchy peanut butter I can count on it being as thick and chunky as every other time. The smuckers company isn’t goin to sell me a jar with oil at the bottom, peanuts at the top and my imagination to make it all work.
I think most people would agree that when they by a product for everyday use, they expect it to just work. Whether it is crackers and cheese, JIF extra crunchy peanut butter, a hammer and a nail or computer products. I think that 97% of people that are not engineers expect their products they purchase to just work and that the manufacturers engineers have made that possible.
This has been enjoyable though. In some respects I wish maybe I enjoyed tinkering with things. My father and my brother do, in fact go to www,theriverrocker.com. My brother builds just about anything from just about anything.

For me, and most of the people I know personally, it’s a bit like Pandora’s box.

Once you get used to looking past the surface, you’ll always find faults and look for solutions. Apple is the only ecosystem that actively hinders you from doing this on a PC as opposed to some electronic appliance.

I’m fine with appliances just working. I haven’t even bothered to install Linux on my PS3 because it’s already the core of my home entertainment center.

But the Windows XP box (running virus and anti-virus free with no BSOD for about 5 years) has to able to do whatever I want with whatever hardware it has.

I want the same thing out of my phone, so the iPhone’s lack of mass storage mode is not just a missing feature, it boggle my mind that anyone would accept that.

I can hook my phone up to virtually anything and serve up my data in whatever form. When I get home, I can take my PS3 microUSB cable out of the controller, plug in my phone, and check out pictures I snapped or music I downloaded.

I would even say that it “just works”, not because I bought a matching pair, but because both pieces were made with interoperability in mind.