Did Apple swing and miss with App Store Genius recommendations?

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When Apple announced the availability of iPhone OS 3.1 and the new features that came along with it, we’re not going to lie — we were pretty excited. Regardless of your feelings about Apple and its products, nearly everyone can agree that the App Store was one of the biggest game-changers in recent history where the wireless industry is concerned. With all of the great things about Apple’s App Store however, come several faults of course — and one of the biggest problems was the lack of a recommendation system. In fact, we’d call it the second biggest fault behind lack of a facility for trial versions of apps.

Then came OS 3.1 and with it, Genius for apps. Woo hoo! Even off the bat we could see that Apple’s recommendation solution wasn’t going to be ideal but at least it was a good start, right? Unfortunately, not so much. As you may have read elsewhere by now, many people — us included — have found Apple’s Genius recommendations a bit lacking so far. In fact, the system is basically laughable at this point. Now, many of you probably already know this but recommendation systems are tricky business to say the least. The technology behind them is extremely complex and the amount of information considered can be staggering. That said, there are many companies out there that have done incredible things with the science of recommendations. Apple probably should have worked with one of them.

Looking at the screenshot above, we’ve highlighted one item in particular — though the subsequent recommendation is nearly as bad. “MobileNavigator Europe based on Camera Genius.” Really, Apple? Suffice it to say, the connection doesn’t immediately jump out at us. We want more control over our camera so that means we probably also want to fly to Europe and find our way around once we get there? Or perhaps with Camera Genius we’ll be taking better pictures so we may want to head across the pond and take pictures while touring Europe?

In browsing through the recommendations on one of our iPhones, there are definitely a bunch in the list where connections can be found. More often than not however, we’re at a loss. “iOutBank Pro (German mobile banking app) based on Camera Genius?” “Death Cab for Cutie (a portal for fans of the band) based on F-MyLife (community where people whine about bad things that happen to them, and then get laughed at)?” “EasyWriter Pro (landscape typing app rendered nearly useless by OS 3.0+) based on AT&T Navigator?” The worse news is that so far, we’re finding that removing bad recommendations and checking out good ones has lead to zero improvement. Long story short: the criteria Apple’s Genius system uses to make its recommendations needs refinement. A whole lot of refinement.

So, iPhone users, our question is this: Did Apple swing and miss with App Store Genius recommendations? Hit the comments section and let us know how Genius is working out for you.

18 Comments
  • jpg

    yes sir, they did miss. big time.

  • jpg

    there’s nothing wrong with having a recommendation system, but it looks like they have argue that they’ve never been good with recommending. suffice to say, i would almost step into the world of taboo and say they could learn a thing or two from microsoft’s new search engine, bing. and maybe it’s just my opinion, but apple has always been better at making people conform than conforming to people’s needs. so, where does that leave us? simply put, apple, grab a clue. we like you, we really do. but prove to us that you actually care about what we like. i won’t say please. and if you can’t prove that you care well, android’s up the street, capisce?

  • Kriscamp

    Apple can do no wrong (wink wink)

  • Perspective

    Working with another company is not an option, since that company would demand revenue-based compensation in light of the circumstances. We all know thathif they announced a fee-based genius system or App Store prices went up to pay royalties there would be a ton of whining, especially from blogs like this one. But since the mainstream doesn’t care what blogs say, Apple doesn’t either. Hey, maybe BGR and the others should recognize that tech blogs are “broken” because of the complete absence of utility to non-tech fans (i.e. 98% of the world), and should work with a marketing firm to broaden their reach beyond males between 18 and 35. Somehow, I doubt this will happen.

  • Short RIMM

    give it up BGR…come clean about your holdings in RIMM. You love the iphone, the crackberry stinks and the rest of the competition is going to wash out RIMM.
    time to divest yeah ;)

  • HDMM

    I’m completely satisfied with the recommendation system!! maybe it does not justify coreectly his suggestions, but through it i have discovered wonderfull applications and made my iphone experience even better!! Anyway people will always find something to complain whatever apple does!! So try to enjoy things rather than complain all the time…..

  • D.J.

    I think you’re being a little harsh on it. It just came out, and like all recommendation systems it needs some time for kinks to be worked out. I’d give it at least a few weeks before saying it sucks.

  • DDT

    When the genius system for music was first introduced, the recommendations were not very good either. Over time as more data is gathered, genius has smarter. I think it is a welcome addition to the app store, and for now I’m reserving judgment on the quality of the recommendations. If the recommendations are just a weak in a few months, then I’d agree there’s a problem.

  • StevenGlansburg

    Waiting on blackberry tools to start with the usual “fart app” BS

    Posted from BGR Mobile (iPhone) at: Cincinnati North America

  • fred

    I think the iphone has come qite a ways. However there is still work that is much needed. The biggest thing that needs to be included in the next iphone os is the ability to use more than one app at a time. With the new os came the rhapsody app however its an inconvience to not be able to use the app while i’m texting or using another application on my iphone.

    Posted from BGR Mobile (iPhone) at: New Rochelle North America

  • alen

    Genius Mixes – FAIL

    haven’t played with the App Genius but the new music genius mixes are crap. the ones i have seem to mostly play the B songs, no way to update them or to force an update either.

  • Sonya

    @ StevenGlansburg

    Your annoyed by other peoples comments? Wow.

  • the anti-steven glansburg

    The fanboi paranoid?
    Ha ha
    Douchebag.

  • MG

    Has anyone one else had this problem since upgrading to 3.1 the catagories section In the app store is all messed up where it shows the skype icon and says app store instead of listing the different catagories like games and music.

    Posted from BGR Mobile (iPhone) at: Vaughan North America

  • David

    OK! So I see alot of bitching. But I guess that’s kinda how it goes with mac people. Bitch, bitch, bitch! Do you remember when Genius first came out? I do remember that Apple did say it would take a minute for Genius to get better. It has to go through many libraries to get better. Just give it a bit. Instead of knocking it right off the bat. At first i didn’t think App Genius was all that great but I’ll give it another week and the benefit of the doubt. As far as Genius Mixes…yes there could definitely be improvements. Here is how mixes work. It takes artists from your library and makes a compilation. That will also get better over time. I know my mixes have gotten better over the past couple days. I actually listened to a mix while working last night and I thought it was actually cool. So just give the added Genius features sometime and you’ll see improvements.

  • Zak Saber

    I haven’t updated to 3.1, I have an iPhone 3G on 3.0.1 and I could careless about Genius and what it does. I don’t use it for music and I wouldn’t use it for apps.

  • romale

    iPhone 3.1 sucks my has been crashing

  • MastrCake

    While this can be considered an “epic fail” at this point, it might get better as more apps come out and the genius gets smarter. It seems like my music recommendations have been getting better, who’s to say the app genius won’t?

    Posted from BGR Mobile (iPhone) at: Boise City North America

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