Overlooked webOS features reviving Pre envy

> …it will pull all of that information off
> the web and into your contacts…

Right – like maps and wikipedia entries like it says above.

Uh huh.

Small matter of progamming.

Don’t let the thoughtless fawning by web sites like BGR or Engadget fool you – it actually is more than a small matter of programming and it is GUARANTEED the Pre does not come with it.

@Unfrozen Jon who said: “I have to say for a business phone the Pre beats the iPhone easily.”

Based upon what, in specifics, do you state this? How many times have you used the Pre’s ‘business’ functions?

I’ll buy one the very instant that they run on VZW. Until then, I’ll just dream. There’s simply no way that I’m going to try to work with Sprint. What was Palm thinking?

backbeat – what the heck is your problem? You swear, call people names, and rant about something that you obviously don’t know about.

I’ve read the reports on the Pre, on sites such as Engadget, Palm Infocenter, New York Times, PC Magazine, PC World, and about 6 other sites. From all the reports, it looks to be a great smartphone that will change how smartphones work. Apple and RIM will be taking cues from the Pre, just like the Pre took cues from them. That’s how the world works.

Everything I’ve read says that this will be able to handle all kinds of email, web sites, PIM functions, games, music, videos, and take superior pictures.

As for off line access to info, every smartphone can have that issue. But, it’s webOS appears to be able to take data from the web and save it to the device, just like a PC can.

Since no one on this list has used one yet, they really can’t say too much.

Backbeat – you are rude, unprofessional, and your comments have no basis or facts to back them up. Relax, you seem to take this personally.

I wouldn’t say backbeat or Gauntlet Down are wrong, they just have thier opinions and there is no convincing them otherwise. Either thier past experiences with the carrier/manufacturer have them sour and no facts or suggestions can convince them anything has changed. This will go on forever til the phone and OS comes out, then some opinions will be validated and others won’t

^This is a misrepresentation of facts where I’m concerned. What I state is not out of “soured experience” or stubbornness, but out of critical thinking which is void of koolade dilution. Every platform should be considered just as soberly rather than sprinting for the pompoms without just cause. That’s exactly how foolish decisions are made and how others may be mislead.

Generally it’s a good idea to, you know, USE a product before slotting it over anything. But what’s interesting here is that Palm can tell us everything about the phone. . .EXCEPT THE RELEASE DATE. I’d settle for a release MONTH at this point, but they can’t even give us that. Kinda makes me wonder just how savvy Palm is (or isn’t).

I like this phone. It looks pretty cool and if it functions like half of what they say it will, then it will be great. I’ve always liked Palm and I have owned or used their pilots and phones.

From what I’ve seen, the interface looks pretty cool. From what I’ve read, I think it will be what other companies will look at to improve their phones.

I went from a Palm 750 to a Bold and then to a regular phone instead of a PDA because I couldn’t decide on what I wanted.

But if this phone performs as advertised, I’ll have to give some serious thought to switching carriers and getting this phone.

I am having a hard time understanding why people seam to think that there can ONLY be ONE good phone.I have owned two blackberries and a WinWo phone. None connected to a corporate server.

As MacNamee said, each Os has advantages and disadvantages. BB = amazing E-mail and biz integration. iPhone = incredible UI and a true entertainment phone with convenient wireless connectivity. Android = amazing web experience and GPS integration. WinWo = true business software integration (duh, it’s from the same company that makes 92% of the world’s P.C. os’s)

All will be improved upon over time and each will do a great job of forcing the other to watch their backs and continue progressing the technology.

As of right now, everyone seams to be watching the Pre. Last year it was the Storm (out, what a fail!), and the year before, the iPhone.

I think that the Pre has some amazing features that are well laid out. I think that WinMo and BB are still superior business products hands-down. And iPhone, Android and WebOs are going to battle for private and small business users.

None of us know why Palm went with Sprint, but I am SURE they have a reason. Either they WANTED to go with Sprint for some reason, or ATT/Verizon wouldn’t have them until they proved they could sell phones.

My dream phone is a combination of WinWo, BB and iPhone. I want BB E-mail power and real QWERTY keyboard, WinMo’s amazing and seamless desktop integration with my office computer, and the iPhone’s beautiful and elegant UI. I hope Palm has come up with this, and I hope it comes to Verizon. If not, I’ll wait for my hybrid Storm/Bold to come out next year and be happy with that for some time to come.

I do hope that BB realizes that their UI and Os is as antiquated as Palm’s was and comes out with something as new and evolutionary as Palm did.

Tap, ball’s in your court BB!

-Matt

PS – Sorry for the long post.

For those that want this running late feature already, Win Mo has it. Its called Oops I’m late. You can get it at oopsimlate.com.

PS.

Perspective – What you are asking is for them to do exactly what Blackberry did with the Storm. Their catastrophe was to announce the Storm and hint/suggest a release date.

Now the Storm was released a solid 4-6 months before it should have been. I owned one for 3 weeks and felt like an alpha/beta tester (not even solid Beta).

I would MUCH rather the company take the time and release a solid platform that works perfectly from day one. A release like the Storm would put an instant bullet in Palm’s forehead and nail their coffin shut in one disastrous second.

It’s smart business. Create buz and a bit of concern amongst their competitors now. We all know it will be out this yeat sometime. When it comes, it comes.

Patience will pay itself off. Hundred’s of millions of dollars in investment demand respect. They are incredibly savvy and have done things perfectly up to this point in my opinion.

Don’t expect a release date until it’s real and Palm KNOW’s it’s flawless, solid and ready to wow every hand that touches it.

It’s sink or swim for Palm. If they do it right, they’ll be a contender for the next few years. If they do it wrong, bye bye Palm in 2009.

-Matt

WebOS has been in development for 2 years, it was not developed with the PDA/Smart phone in mind. It was developed with the idea the user can have a desktop like experience in a mobile device. The Palm Pre works similar to a desktop.

I don’t get this picture, I keep seeing it. I know its an official picture, but why the bad photoshop job? Shouldn’t the time, signal meter, and battery bar be, uhh, pushed down so that they are actually on the screen?

Tom: the time, signal meter and battery bar are on the screen. They did something with screen and graphics so that they look like they are on the device itself. They said this makes the screen appear less cluttered. I like it personally, others may not.

Tom – According to the Key Note speach, that info is actually on the screen. But they keep it above the “working space” of the screen so it’s not in the way. The background comes just below that data so it looks like it’s floating above the screen.

At least, that’s what I understood.

I thought the same thing at first. But I like the clean look it gives and it makes it much easier to see.

First I thought they came up with some cool way to display that info right through the case…

-Matt

If you recall, Apple didn’t have any security when it launched, but they have added secure features to satisfy corporate users.

Nothing will satisfy the Feds that will make it desirable from the mass-market side of things… See the Obama posts re: his blackberry vs. the government-approved devices?

If the demand is sufficient, Palm or others will develop securty and/or other features. After seeing what the device is like (at least on paper and in video), I can’t think that Palm has not thought of security and/or corporate use…

Yes…

Read your last sentence… Please.

Perhaps we should let others have an opinion if it is different from ours-even if it is based on false/bad information. I’d point out correct information and avoid “attacks”–whether they use nice, polite language or profanity. Attacks don’t serve a purpose since there is no “right” cell phone as the choice of what device to use is rather subjective.

I suggest we just ignore those who want to attack others since responding to them simply results in more attacks…

Blackberry is the secure platform used by every major department of the US government and by corps with the need to protect IP and trade secrets.

WinMo is such a bucket-of-bolts OS that it can be made into almost anything. And the very reason I believe that industrial model is what Obama was assigned. Security could manipulate its security features and permissions easier than on the Blackberry platform.

A cloud-connected webkit-based mobile [webOS] device will be a hacker’s dream come true for exploitation as well as transferring the exploit to the desktop PC if desktop connectivity becomes a possibility.

BG tell some news about a new palm desktop I don’t want to sync google

What was palm thinking?
- Answer… Palm was thinking that the little can you hear me now guy likes to lock down the wifi and gps availability of his phones and they wanted a carrier that wasn’t going to rape their customers.

Good point Jose, ATT doesn’t have that great of a data or voice network and vzw nickel and dimes

^Hi Louie.

Fuck you and your insult to every readers’ intelligence, Sprint-soaked Pantyboy.

Valid statement is greeted by a kids response. An intelligent comeback would refute my network claims against att or how vzw is the same price with the same features but that would be a lie. I know this doesn’t apply for everyone, everywhere based on network and that goes for all carriers but the price difference can’t be disputed. The WebOS picks up more interest everyday

Where was there any entrance of AT&T in Jose’s post, idiot? It was _you_ who provided the insult to the readers’ intelligence.

Fuck you [again].

Embrace the responsibility for your own actions and lack thereof like a good, lil troll.

Bitch.

Jose, Palm sells to the top 3 carriers and it’s common knowledge on these boards that neither GSM carrier’s 3G network is as expansive than either vzw’s or Sprint’s, vzw cripples devices to only allow thier downloads and GPS. Back to this awesome OS that is starting it’s own blogs and it isn’t even out yet