Amazon gets attacked by Pirates of the online variety

Wow, it’s been 30 minutes and nobody has commented on this yet? I guess everyone is out downloading the content referenced in the article. lol.

I understand why the MPAA is all up in arms about this, but the RIAA? Come on, if I can record a song to tape that was played on the radio…. then what is the big deal with keeping me from recording it online?

Thats True. It’s The Same Concept.

Wow, recording songs from radio to tape? You’re taking me back with that comment.

In principle, it is the same concept. But I don’t think the RIAA is concerned with the 4 people that still actually use tapes (cassettes for all the kiddies out there and I know some still won’t know what that is).

Try to “sell”/seed a copy of your latest Soulja Boy track recorded from FM… see how many people grab it.

The market is digital. That’s where the orgs will focus their futile efforts to control what we can and can’t get our hands on.

@ essemm-
OK, I get the point. But it is still the same concept. CDs can be burned just as easily by plugging in an FM Tuner into almost ANY modern a/v card and recording to HDD. That’s not even to mention if you subscribe to XM or ” the other one”. For that matter, using the Windows Media Player to stream music and recording is incredibly simple. Burn a CD, transfer to MP3 player, what ever your heart desires. If they are broadcasting it FREE to EVERYONE over the air, why do they feel they should charge us to record what they are giving us free?

Because they get more of my money that way? Hmm… not a good enough answer.

Don’t get me wrong, I support the artists.. I understand their work needs to be paid, but I don’t feel they should be paid MILLIONS for a song I am going to listen to maybe 15 times over the next 6 months.

Movies on the other hand, I see that they should be content protected. They have NEVER offered them free of charge to the public ( until they can’t make money off of them anymore and give them to TBS ). So I see that I should pay for it. I would rather pay for the DVD than watch it in the theater though. But once I pay for it, I should be able to make as many copies FOR PERSONAL USE as I see fit.

well that an the record industries reason for being is at the consumer level now for the most part
heck artists make more from concerts

Arrrrrrggg!

Way to f**k up a good thing.
If your committing a crime keep your mouth shut. When you tell the uninformed how to do it, It becomes an epidemic and it ends up getting shut down.

This advice applies to all crimes, scams and easy ways out.

soo.. it was an experiment..

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t believe it. Just tried it by curiosity and it actually works.
I’m not encouraging it but with programs like this, it gonna make it even harder for me to go out and buy dvds and cds.

Radio > Tape = Massive quality loss and not an exact duplicate of the original. Radio has reduced frequency response and there’s quality loss every analog (tape) generation.

CD > MP3 = Potentionally a high quality or lossless transfer with no generation loss. Harder to define this as “Fair Use.”

The answer is not “well songs are on the radio and that’s free, so music should be as well.” Radio stations pay royalty fees to the labels for the songs they play. The answer is the labels need to change their business model. How they make their profit, how MUCH profit they make, and how they distribute the content. Companies like Pandora shouldn’t be driven out of existence, they should be embraced and could be huge sources of profit. They just have their priorities wrong.

http://pirates-of-the-amazon.com/

Wow, it has now been taken down. That was a short lived experiance. Hope they get full credit for the project

Interesting. I remember when I used to record on tape so I could listen to it on my walkman later on. Funny thing is, If i liked the song I would save up and buy the album anyway. It was cheap then. Less then dollar for a cassette album. Unfortunately I can’t say the same today when prices are so high and piracy is so easy. I’m not encouraging it but unfortunately it is due to finances.

My personal opinion is that the solution to the piracy problem is both price and how media is delivered. Most of the piracy of music and movies comes from 3rd world countries. Why? Because first of all it is expensive, c99 for a song or $10-$20 for a DVD is equivalent to weeks wage is these countries. Even in first world countries, money is money now a days. Secondly there are hardly any online stores in these countries even if they had the money to buy them. It just seems unfair for a person earning minimum wage to pay his weeks salary so that the artist and music executives can buy multi million dollar houses and drive their Maybach’s. Don’t get me wrong, I think artists and all those involved should be compensated, but really? Millions of dollars? Come on! The cost of a bootleg DVD is about US$1 . Why not just sell a original for the same amount? They would eliminate piracy and probably earn more money from increased number of sales.

This is just my opinion. Just seems like a logical solution to me.

Thanks!

Gezwhu (from a third world country)

umm this is why drm exists… nobody wants to pay up but everybody still wants their music…get a subscription like rhapsody or even (ugh) zune pass which lets you keep 10 tracks a month… or pay a buck per song… stealing is stealing… im not saying i dont use vuze or limewire im just saying when we ef with them they end up effing that much harder…

nah DRM exiists to prevent trnasfer of media wich is pointless at this point an makes it playable on prrpitarya hardwar eto foce sales ALA icrap

Funny how they already received a take-down notice from amazon. I agree that the artists should be compensated and it should be in the millions because the record execs make a lot more than the artists. However, I don’t think either of them should make as much, thus if the record exec’s wealth was reduced then it should trickle down to the artists. In a recession people do not have the time nor the money to spend on CDs and movies when they are all available online for either downloading or streaming. The labels better come up with a better design scheme or they’ll continue to lose the war. The Zune pass is the perfect way to start though.

I don’t know if it’s just me, but the music I download is usually lower quality than CD’s. So where probably 70% of my music is downloaded, a good 30% are select tracks that I buy because I really like the song and want it in good quality. In my case I feel like I’m being a good consumer because I only buy the track I really like. Why spend money on a song you want but will only listen to a few times a year? That way I’m only promoting the work of artists I really like.

ART project?

sure it’s an art project why not?

the juxtaposition of those two considerations in the same place seems like a rather interesting comment on fulfillment, social contract, convenience and economics…

One could naturally enough buy something on amazon and then download it pirate bay. The rights holders would probably see that as theft, but if you do you your own order fulfillment that has lower costs does it not?

F*CK the music industry period. I’m glad were taking alot of their profit away by downloading, streaming, whatever. Oh wait, they might have to put more effort into their music? Hell YEA! I haven’t liked a song on the radio since BIG and PAC. If I do like a certain artists music, I will actually go and buy it for the cover art.

Well since these guys are in the Netherlands I would assume that they are immune to any legal action that Amazon.com could take against them similar to The Pirate Bay in Sweden (see funny Legal section).