Sprint makes HTC Touch Pro official, coming October 26th

Hmmm. Apparently, you missed the comment about “Code Division Multiple Access transponders”. I won’t even tell you how many degrees I have earned and what schools. I am sure the pale in comparison to your DeVry Sheepskin. Honestly, do you even work in this industry? I admitted that my grammar was flawed since I was quite tired and punchy after a long week at work and a rather early morning. Back to the subject-the Touch Pro ought to be a really nice handset for Sprint. It will be interesting to see what features are locked on VZ since they are getting one as well. Is your Cricket Store getting one, Bluehorse?-or do you manage a kiosk for Radio Shack?

Yes, I know I put the instead of “they” BG seems to dislike my browser, since I know that I typed it properly-ha ha on me…

crashoverride please tell me the differences between verizon and sprint cmda why is one better than the other besides with verizon u have those dam people following ypu around. I didn’t go to schoole for that im just would likw to know.

Scot, I am not sure what you are asking to know for sure, so please feel free to ask a specific difference. The commercials are just PR stuff, as obviously VZW does not send people around to stalk you. In all fairness, Verizon has a good network, but so does Sprint. The basic thing you need to know is that both Sprint and VZ use each other’s “network” in different markets in the country. Recently, Sprint sold their physical towers (as in what you see as metal towers) to have extra cash. These were towers that were from Nextel. Other then those physical towers, most other carriers never owned many physical towers. Crown Castle Int. is the company that owns most of the physical towers in NA. In other news, VZ, Sprint and Tmo all put their transponders on towers and connect them to physical commercial internet “backbones” or T-3 lines. This carries the calls to network switches in areas-like the movie the Matrix.

Now, it gets tricky-the FCC, or Federal Communication Commission, decides who can own what frequencies in what markets-like one company can own the 900 mhz band in Baltimore or wherever. Many of these markets are owned by local ‘subcontractors’ for lack of a better analogy. That is not mean to be a demeaning comment-there are smaller companies that provide some local wireless or commercial internet in that market and “rent” their FCC bandwidth to the big boys like VZ or Sprint in the case of CDMA. So, “Skippy Wireless” may have 300 miles of FCC 1900 Bandwidth approved for 1.9 Ghz in Seattle or wherever-they may rent to both Sprint and VZ or only one. The other who is left out for business of physical restraints of what the local guys network can handle, may lease from another FCC local affiliate and so on. Some markets are completely in the hands of the big boys-but not everywhere.

So-they may “share” where Sprint has service, VZ rents and vice-versa. Other times, both or only one can rent from the local ‘subcontractors” and so on. Let me know if that answered your concern.

As to the CDMA difference: Their technologies are the same (Sprint and VZ), but they do use slightly different signals (it gets awfully technical down that road”) but can certainly share ‘wireless signal’ everywhere but they simply don’t share everywhere, due to FCC and business competition. Hope that long-winded comment helps. Others may nitpick, but trust me-this is a crude but accurate example of the deal and how it works.

thanks crashoverride and I know that the ppl don’t follow you around for verizon that would be freaky. but thanks for all the info. and do ypu know what thae law suit against nextel is about they lost their appeal and were suppose to shut down the network in IL MI and some other states. I rad in cool county I’LL they lost their final appeal .

Scott-I know you weren’t looking over your shoulder for VZ, I was just being silly-no offense intended. As for the case with iPCS, I am not able to comment on that case-sorry, but it is a legal matter between Sprint and another company. As far as what the news says, just remember that Sprint has a difficult situation with Nextel service in those areas, but the other deal being talked about involves what is called XOHM or Wimax technology-which is like Super Wifi across whole regions. But, if you are a big Nextel user in PA, MI, IL or similar areas, the situation seems up in the air from what I have read in the news. There are two separate cases in the same court system.

crashoverride I want to thank you for all of ur help. but one more question how do you gat out of a contract without paying I have nothing but problems with my phone the moto Q9c for I’ve been fighting with sprint since march I’ve talked to everyone and they don’t want to anything about it I’ve had it replaced 5 times already and still having problems. and with the nextel if u have nextel in I’LL are u screwed

@ crash…

“Perhaps you think that companies actually own the towers they use, which of course-they do not.”

…and then you state…

“Recently, Sprint sold their physical towers (as in what you see as metal towers) to have extra cash.”

Do you really know what the hell you’re talking about?

LOL (@ crash)…and Scott, I recommend that you do your own due diligence before listening to someone else like crash.

blue if you read the news sprint did just sell all there towers im sure in certain areas they all own some of there towers and lease the others as he stated they sold all of their nextel towers.

Bluehorse, I have an actual job to prepare for in the industry this week, so I am not going to bother playing too much more with you as I have a family. As for Scott and anyone else, go and look it up for yourself and let Mr. Bluehorse run his mouth. I have been in this game a long time and the one thing I know is to watch what you say when technology and business moves so fast as it does in wireless. My statements can be verified by looking at other sources. Thanks!

The pro is at Best Buy for $299 with no rebates. I went in today and got to play with it myself.

Telesales and retails stores are still saying the 2nd.

-Mike

Sprint says it will be in “select stores” on the second. Not sure what that means, other than “we didn’t get enough to send it to every store yet”

@Crashoverride

On behalf of all of the anonymous readers lurking on this site, we apologize for idiots like Mr. Horseshoe. He sounds like he is still in his twenties which means that he knows everything.

I’ve been working as a software developer for the past ten years, so I guess that qualifies me as having “worked in the technical arena”.

Of course, working in the technical arena (as the r-tard put it) has nothing to do with knowledge of cellular technology. I didn’t know what CDMA meant before reading your post, nor did I care.

Bluehorseshoe, if it helps you sleep at night, keep telling yourself that those half-baked sentence fragments you are sputtering make you smarter than everyone else. Drink another one for me. Preferably, after you post this time.

@ Mike

It’s not a matter or ‘knowing it all’, but yet actually knowing it and educating one who is misleading everyone with incorrect information. I too have been a developer and very much involved in the technical arena, and I run my own consulting company, which is quite successful. If you look closely at the comments, I pointed out a flaw in Mr. Crash’s comments where he states:

“Perhaps you think that companies actually own the towers they use, which of course-they do not.”

…and then later he states…

“Recently, Sprint sold their physical towers (as in what you see as metal towers) to have extra cash.”

If one is to attempt an educated conversation, at least know what you’re talking about and make sure you do your due diligence. Don’t try to educate others with information that you’re not sure about.

No need with help sleeping over here toots.

well lets not get into a pissing match . I read that sprint did sell it towers and im sure sprint don’t own all of it towers just like every other phone company. but sprint sold the ones that they did own is what crash was saying

mr crash I need your help . it sounds like you might work for sprint so can I ask you how do I get a motoQ9c that works? I have went through 5 phones already and they all do the same thing can you please help.

I was just at best buy and they have the sprint touch pro for 299 with no rebate. so how can they have it and the sprint stores don’t?

Sprint stores are now selling the Pro. Hurry as most have only 3-5 of them I think. Not even sure if Best Buy has many in stock. It is a good bit thicker than the diamond, but that is due to the keyboard. As to your question Scott, no matter who I work for it is important to remember that Sprint has been focusing on customer service, as BGR and other sites report all the time. It has really helped their ratings to improve and slowed their customer churn remarkably in under one year. As with any company, ask for retentions on customer service and POLITELY explain the situation. Although I have never worked in that venue, friends who have inform me that anger and argument get you no where. Have your facts straight, do not embelish your story and ask for another handset or a different one. If it is Sprint in particular, I hope you have the TEP 7 insurance as that helps a bit. Sprint actually honors their insurance. Most carriers have a list of acceptable phones to swap for your model. Another possibility is getting a credit on your account (as Sprint has been doing that for real problems as well) and buying the phone outright or with a substantial discount. The moto Q is a bad handset IMO-for VZW, Sprint, and everyone else. It is another reason that Moto is in trouble so don’t hate your carrier for it. A deal signed years ago probably forced them to sell it. Ask any retail rep from any chain and they will tell you how the all Q series and all RAZR-esq handsets are two of the most returned for equipment failure. Not the carrier-the hardware. I personally like MOTO so I am not too happy about this trend.

Lastly, thanks for the honest feedback to all about my new friend Mr. Bluehorse. Yes, most carriers leased their towers and yes Nextel, which began as Fleetcall, was one of the few exceptions. Owning their own ‘coverage’ in select markerts and physical towers was likely one of their strongest business assets. Still, maintaining towers is an expensive proposition. Now, Sprint has chosen to leverage that to seemingly look toward the future-IE XOHM and such as BGR has extensively covered. I wish Sprint the best of luck as they seem to moving the right direction. Lastly, if I don’t know an answer assuredly, I will not comment. People like Bluehorse are the reason I do not often bother saying much at all, as it isn’t worth the effort to counter the disinformation. But still-thanks all.

@ Crash

It’s your friend again. Come on and say it…

You shouldn’t have said anything to begin with. Next time you speak, make sure you conduct your due diligence. Contradicting your own statements is classic.

Later my new friend.

Mr. Bluehorseshoe, let it go becausewovs making yourself look silly and immature with those feeble attempts to invalidate Mr. crashoverdrive.

Sorry, but I have a low tolerance for stupid people.