The Stupidity of a Government – Argentina’s Upcoming DST Changes on 12/30

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As if no lessons were learned by the impacts of DST changes to North America earlier this year, the government of Argentina decided on December 21, 2007 to implement Daylight Saving Time rules for the first time since 2000. These changes are set to be in effect on December 30, 2007, just nine days after the decision was made by the Dodo’s in the Argentine government. Are they, as a country, really that flexible, or do they simply have the impression that the rest of the world does not notice nor care about the eighth largest country on the planet?

The current time zone for Buenos Aires, Argentina and Georgetown, Guyana is SA Eastern Standard Time, which does not recognize any Daylight Saving Time rules.  Guyana will remain on this time zone, although Argentina will move to a new time zone, appropriately named Argentina Standard Time.

Daylight Saving Time begins: Sunday, December 30th, 2007 at 00:00 AM
Daylight Saving Time ends: Sunday, March 16th, 2008 at 00:00 AM

As far as the all-important technical impact that the Argentine government apparently failed to recognize as a factor in their decision, here’s what we know for major applications and platforms:

Windows: Microsoft does not have an updated Windows DST patch for the Argentina changes.  Workaround: Adjust the registry to add the new time zone and reflect changes for the current time zone (see link below).

Exchange: Microsoft does not have an updated CDO.DLL patch for the Argentina changes.  Workaround: None.

Outlook/Exchange Calendar: The Microsoft Office Outlook Tool can be used to update calendar appointments to use the new time zone.  Note: The registry changes mentioned above for the Windows section will need to be applied first, as the Outlook Tool pulls it’s data from the local system registry.

BlackBerry Enterprise Server: See notes on Exchange above, as CDO.DLL will be the point of fault on BES.  Workaround: None.

BlackBerry Devices: RIM has a case open with their software development group, but there is no current ETR for a device patch or SQL update for time zone table synchronization.  Calendar appointments should be expected to be off by one hour during the DST period.  Workaround: Change the time on the device up by one hour (12:00 AM becomes 1:00 AM).

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38 Comments
  • http://www.servicesolution.com Jeff F

    Insane, calm down its a title. Let me get this straight, you can call the U.S. Government ‘stupid’ and I am supposed to just ignore it, free speech and all. Yet if we make the same statement to another government we all need to be ‘hurt’ and ‘offended’ by it? Give BGR a break, if you truly were offended by the comment, then you must have really thin skin. To anyone offended, are you perhaps living in the United States while being offended by free speech? Get used to it and move on.

  • maria

    In response to the word stupid used in ARG headline – better than “idiota”!!! -now THAT would be harmful; could cause the need for banging pots and pans in the streets…

    For all you Americans and others, yes, it sounds cruel – but from an American that lived in the northern province of ARG for years (Misiones) – it’s harmless – just another day of politics and quick political decisions that throws off it’s citizens – but what else is new?

    Hey, go there and listen to how they criticize other governments… I think you all are taking this headline way too serious – as they say, “walk a mile in their shoes (or just speak like they do- stupid is not so harmful…) – and they could indeed really agree with this headline” – then go for a beer and an empanada!… hmmm

    ps: Unaffected?! I think not. It’s a huge country; check your map.

  • ROGER

    Can’t comment on the contraversy. But guys – be nice and polite. Its the best way for us all to act. I did speak to my BES supplier (http://www.123together.com/mobility.xhtml)and they said they could deal with any problems that might arise anywhere in the world.

  • Nicolas

    I live in Argentina. I agree with all the blog posts I have seen calling our government “stupid” for this change. Most people commenting are overreacting; although I agree that the previous title was offensive. Don’t blame the country for the government stupidity, particularly since we didn’t exactly vote the current president (there was lots of fraud).

    Microsoft sucks most of the time, but they’re completely right on this. The government didn’t give anyone enough time to be ready for the timezone change. Microsoft *knows* how to fix the timezone, they just couldn’t do the update and deploy it on computers around the world *in a fucking week*. So put away your “stupidity of Microsoft, cant add an option for the time change” comments.

    Not to mention the energy savings probably will be negligible. @Gov: Electricity usage has increased. Get over it. Generate more electricity, instead of hiding the problem with time changes or stopping industry.

  • http://www.none.com Carlos

    Opps i guess i should learn some geography before attacking other people’s arguments. Sorry about that. Jibi did apologize so i guess i’ll return to being an avid BGR reader. Thanks for changing the heading, and next time try to approach things with a lighter tone (even though the topic simply asks to be ridiculed).

    FYI: the technical information added to provide the post some credible weight helps also.

    Anyway, BGR YOU HAVE REDEEMED YOURSELF.

    ^^^ thats was a joke, if you didn’t get it.

  • HHC

    Jibi, i am argentinian, and i am 100% in accordance. The feeling that a lot of people from outside the country is knowning our goverment is quite releasing, the spirit of them is that “there is anything that they don’t know”, so the can do whatever they want, no like the dicatator from venezuela, but on the way. Thank you for your post. Regards

  • http://elbit.net/oswaldo Oswaldo

    This is the most stupid (innitialy offensive) post on BGR of 2007.

  • Visitor

    I am currently living in Argentina and I am working for IBM. IBM delivered a patch for our computers just in time. I guess it was not such a big deal to produce that patch. And I guess if someone at Microsoft Argentina had taken the time to push the guys in Redmond, than MS would have had time to produce such a patch as well.
    I don’t agree on the comments regarding the people and the goverment of Argentina. In Argentina is common practice to blaime the goverment for all the problems. The goverment was elected by the people of Argentina, therefore they also share a part of the responsebility. The people to often forget that they are a part of the problem.

  • Juan Valdez

    I provide support for a scheduling product that runs on both Unix and Windows. On Sunday, Dec. 30, 2007, I received two trouble tickets both from Argentina. One was actually the Argentine government.

    The problem? The schedule for 12-30 could not even be created and the scheduler created a new schedule for 12-29 instead as it could not figure out what was going on. We could also create a proper schedule for 12-31 by specifying that day.

    Since the scheduler gets its time from the OS, it was clear that there was either a problem with the Olson timezone database patch on Solaris (if they even had one to apply) or the Microsoft procedure which was a hastily created weblog entry patching the Microsoft Registry.

    The only solution I could provide to the customer was to run the schedules manually, which both customers reluctantly accepted. As far as I know, everything is still OK.

    The bottom line is that, thanks to the stupidity of many of the Argentina government officials and legislators up to and including the new president, the OS and software vendors had no time to produce a patch or verify that the procedure would even work.

    I would say the same thing if the problem occurred in the US. Stupidity is stupidity no matter who it is. Fortunately, the US Timezone change was announced with a two year lead time and the problems encountered when we implemented the DST 2007 Rules were minimal.

    As the Eagles’ song so aptly says “Get Over It!”

  • Marcelo

    No workaround for exchange?

    Boy Genius. Pffff…!

  • metalcesare

    NEVER change the title (or anything else) of a permanent post where people can debate without explicitly saying, in the body, that you did. Jerk. I can’t believe I even wasted my time posting.

  • http://www.myspace.com leonel powers

    i agree i meanthe goverment well eat you up and spit you out and everyone else as well

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